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My Solitaire Ring Jewellers In La - A Safe Company To Deal With?

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Hello! Please can anyone advise a "newbie" whether My Solitaire Ring is a respectable company? www.mysolitairerings.com

 

Their prices are too good to be true. Certification body they use is some "GGS" which cannot be traced on internet.

 

We live in the United Kingdom. The only international payment options MSR offered us are cashier’s checks, money orders or bank transfers. Does it seem a bit risky?

 

Many thanks in advance!

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The GGS report is a problem. Not because there cannot be nice stones with a GGS report to describe them, but because you have no idea what you are buying (and thus any price comparison is moot). Here are some recent threads that touch the issue of non-GIA (or AGS) grading:

 

http://www.diamondreview.com/forum/topic/7515-egl-international-is-this-a-legit-appraisal-firm/

http://www.diamondreview.com/forum/topic/7489-potential-value-in-egl/

http://www.diamondreview.com/forum/topic/7436-advice-on-this-35-ct-round-diamond/

 

The payment options - even though relatively normal for an international deal - don't protect you at all if the vendor refuses to honour his part of the deal. Considering that what they really offer is 7 days return with some pretty complex return conditions to comply with (return shipped within the 7 days, and package received by them within 14 days of their shipment), I'd give this particular dealer a very wide berth. There are plenty of better options.


Davide - Specialised Consumer Information and Assistance,
Diamonds by Lauren (http://www.diamondsbylauren.com)
davide@diamondsbylauren.com

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Agreed with the above. Remember the old adage: If something seems too good to be true, it probably is.

 

There are tons and tons of reputable dealers online and around the world--I'd certainly make a better point of buying something that you can know what you're getting for a fair price somewhere reputable over buying something that's a "deal" or "steal" somewhere else that you don't have any idea what might arrive.


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Certification body they use is some "GGS" which cannot be traced on internet.

 

Why in the world would you make a decision to buy an expensive item internationally from a stranger based entirely on information from an unknown and untracable source?


Neil Beaty

GG(GIA) ICGA(AGS) NAJA

 

There's never a crowd when you go that extra mile.

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All clear. We won't be dealing with them. Plus MSR are not replying my emailes anymore as I started asking too many questions. :) Thank you all so much!!

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That is absolutely a red flag with anyone! Or if you ask the same question a few times and either get different answers or they ignore the heart of the question and talk around it (or ignore it altogether). Just good points to look out for for ANYONE buying anything anywhere, but especially when you're dealing with something long-distance.

 

If you let us know what you're looking for a little more specifically, I'm sure almost anyone here would be more than happy to help you (besides just picking it out for you! ;) ) with any questions you might have on how to search, what to look for, what to avoid, etc.


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Ahh thank you so much! Well, my husband wants to buy me a pair of diamond earrings (around £1000 price) and I just need to choose them. :)

I have chosen studs in 0.92 ct H/SI2 round brilliant cut (GIA-certified) on www.diamondmanufacturers.co.uk and their price will be £1011 total with delivery and tax. Pretty good deal, isn't it?

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I cannot locate the item you are interested in on the site you have linked. However, browsing through their standard stud earrings collection, I see NOTHING to indicate that the diamonds have been graded by GIA. They list GIA and AGSL as two of the labs that they use. That's all.

 

On the other hand, I do see prices that make me think that IF the diamonds are graded accurately (regardless of whether they have a GIA report or not), they will be not well cut or with visible inclusions, or possibly both. How do I know that?

 

£1011 including VAT is £842.50 net. At current exchange rates, this is $1315. Take away $250 or so for a pair of simple stud settings in 18k gold, and you are left with $1000-1100, or $500-550 per stone.

 

Now compare this with competitive prices for (GIA graded) H/SI2 diamonds, for example looking at those advertised on the Diamond Finder on this site: http://www.diamondreview.com/diamonds/?qShape=Rnd&qCaratLo=0.42&qCaratHi=0.48&qColorLo=H&qColorHi=H&qClarityLo=8&qClarityHi=8&qGIA=1&qAGS=1&pg=&qSort=Price&qSortDesc=1

 

There are 268 diamonds advertised at prices going from $1163 to $565. All diamonds in this list are graded H/SI2 by GIA, so the price differences are largely due to cut quality and the visibility of the inclusion(s). To get to the price quoted by the site you are looking at, you need to get to the very bottom of this list: poorer cut, and most visible inclusions.

 

Does this make them not suitable for you? Possibly not - after all, a pair of earrings are not going to be subject to the same scrutiny as a ring. What I doubt is that you are getting a bargain, and I am certain that you are not getting top-quality diamonds or settings.

 

They seem to have a good return policy; you could always order the earrings, and see whether you like them. If you don't, pop them into a Jiffy envelope, get your money back and start again...

Edited by davidelevi

Davide - Specialised Consumer Information and Assistance,
Diamonds by Lauren (http://www.diamondsbylauren.com)
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This outfit has a very similar problem although I gather they’re a little closer to home, which certainly helps if a return becomes an issue. I also couldn’t find your specific stones but I didn’t actually look that hard. Could you give us a link to the product page please? I did a more or less random search around 0.90cts stones and nearly all of them were graded by an outfit called DMGG. I’ve no idea who that is, and it doesn’t mean they’re wrong, but they don’t even get listed as one of the OPTIONS for who is doing their grading. That's not a good sign. I’m going to presume you don’t have a relationship with this dealer or they wouldn’t appear here as ‘plan B’. That makes the first step the vetting of the dealer. I’ve never heard of them, which means nothing, but I’m curious, other than claimed low prices and a UK address, what do you know about these people? Do a bit of snooping and see what you can figure out. Are they nearby?


Neil Beaty

GG(GIA) ICGA(AGS) NAJA

 

There's never a crowd when you go that extra mile.

Professional Appraisals in Denver

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Thank you all again. Those earrings are actually "self-built" ones - I have chosen two stones at 0.92 ct tw with GIA certificate, then chose a suitable setting for less than £200.

 

You can do the search in "Earrings - Build your own" and the stones will come up at around £812.

Let me know what can be wrong there!!

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No, this pair: www.diamondmanufacturers.co.uk/MatchedPairDetails_MP901065/

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Thank you all again. Those earrings are actually "self-built" ones - I have chosen two stones at 0.92 ct tw with GIA certificate, then chose a suitable setting for less than £200.

 

You can do the search in "Earrings - Build your own" and the stones will come up at around £812.

Let me know what can be wrong there!!

Read my post above. You are buying at the bottom of the quality scale for H/SI2. Does it matter? Perhaps not, but you should be aware of this fact.

 

Also a couple of red flags: these photos are not of the diamonds you will get. In fact, they are two photos of the same diamond - which is unlikely to be an SI2 - used as a stock photo for any pair of diamonds you pick. Secondly, while they say the stones are GIA graded, it would be nice to see the reports... not because I mistrust the fact that they are GIA graded, but because the vendor uses terms (such as "Ideal cut") that GIA does not use, and there is more information on the report than just size, colour, clarity and cut to help shed some light on what you are actually getting.


Davide - Specialised Consumer Information and Assistance,
Diamonds by Lauren (http://www.diamondsbylauren.com)
davide@diamondsbylauren.com

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It looks like mysolitairerings.com has been busy with a bigger and bolder website, and just as fraudulent: diamondstudswholesale.com.

I notified UnionDiamond that diamondstudswholesale.com is stealing their photos, and I notified brilliance.com that diamondstudswholesale is using their text.

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Since I am the only person posting that has ACTUALLY purchased a product from this company, allow me to tell you about MY experience.  I looked for reviews of this company, and all I could find was a few links where people had questions, and it was nothing but JEWELERS bashing the company.  I talked to a customer service rep and they answered all my questions.  Also, GGS, or Gemological Grading Services, CAN be found on the internet.  They have a fully functional website, however, there are not many if any reviews.  MySolitaireRing (Now DiamondStudsWholesale) has a bulk contract with this company and I'm sure it is much cheaper and faster than sending them to GIA or AGS.  Now, I am NOT SAYING that this grading report will reflect a GIA report, BUT I got my diamond graded by GIA.  I purchased a simple ring just for the diamond to go with a platinum Tacori setting that I had purchased.  The GGS certificate stated it was a 1.01ct Flawless D diamond with and Excellent cut.  The GIA report came back as a 1.01 ct Internally Flawless E diamond with an Excellent cut.  Now, is this exactly what the GGS report said? No.  However, I paid $4,699 at the time (Now it costs $5,139.) and I now have a GIA Certified 1.01ct, IF, E, Exc Cut diamond.  Last I looked anywhere online, including Ebay, you won't find this for less than $9,000.  Not only that, it shines like no other diamond I had seen while looking in jewelry stores.  So, was I lucky? Maybe.  But I will be ordering from them again.  A diamond is really worth nothing, only what someone is willing to pay for it.  I am just tired of the exorbant prices that jewelers throw out and I'm glad there is a company that is somewhat fighting back.  I did A LOT of research before purchasing and I advise you to do the same.  If you decide to purchase from this company, I hope your experience was as good as mine.

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Since I am the only person posting that has ACTUALLY purchased a product from this company, allow me to tell you about MY experience.  I looked for reviews of this company, and all I could find was a few links where people had questions, and it was nothing but JEWELERS bashing the company.  I talked to a customer service rep and they answered all my questions.  Also, GGS, or Gemological Grading Services, CAN be found on the internet.  They have a fully functional website, however, there are not many if any reviews.  MySolitaireRing (Now DiamondStudsWholesale) has a bulk contract with this company and I'm sure it is much cheaper and faster than sending them to GIA or AGS.  Now, I am NOT SAYING that this grading report will reflect a GIA report, BUT I got my diamond graded by GIA.  I purchased a simple ring just for the diamond to go with a platinum Tacori setting that I had purchased.  The GGS certificate stated it was a 1.01ct Flawless D diamond with and Excellent cut.  The GIA report came back as a 1.01 ct Internally Flawless E diamond with an Excellent cut.  Now, is this exactly what the GGS report said? No.  However, I paid $4,699 at the time (Now it costs $5,139.) and I now have a GIA Certified 1.01ct, IF, E, Exc Cut diamond.  Last I looked anywhere online, including Ebay, you won't find this for less than $9,000.  Not only that, it shines like no other diamond I had seen while looking in jewelry stores.  So, was I lucky? Maybe.  But I will be ordering from them again.  A diamond is really worth nothing, only what someone is willing to pay for it.  I am just tired of the exorbant prices that jewelers throw out and I'm glad there is a company that is somewhat fighting back.  I did A LOT of research before purchasing and I advise you to do the same.  If you decide to purchase from this company, I hope your experience was as good as mine.

 

Hmmm..."Interested Party"?...really?

 

While there is the possibility, that you had that experience, I highly doubt it. Don't get me wrong, I do not know the company and am not about to bash any company or person without having all the facts, but I take posts from someone who joined the day of the post with a bucket of salt.

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Dirk Rendel

 

Author: Diamonds 101 - A Diamond Buyers Guide

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