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Hi, I'm in the market for a loose yellow diamond. I want my mounting to be 14KT Yellow gold with gold prongs. Can I opt for a light yellow in the hopes that the mounting will make the color seem deeper? It would keep down the cost if I can. Is a VS2 clarity satisfactory? I'm thinking about a cushion or oval shape in a .75 CT - 1.00 CT. Is there a recommended "safe" online dealer? I would want the option of a return policy. I figure I can get a better deal online verses a brick and mortar retail store. Any suggestions from anyone? I know the fancy diamonds are generally expensive, but I only have about $3000 to spend. Is this possible at all? What's the difference in color between a yellow diamond and a yellow sapphire? I would really appreciate some input on this. Thanks!

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Hi, I'm in the market for a loose yellow diamond. I want my mounting to be 14KT Yellow gold with gold prongs. Can I opt for a light yellow in the hopes that the mounting will make the color seem deeper? It would keep down the cost if I can.

The answer is yes, provided you get the setting from someone who knows how to set yellow diamonds. Here is a W-X radiant set in 14K yellow gold with a 14K white gold shank; it looks like a good Fancy Yellow, perhaps even Fancy Intense.

 

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Is a VS2 clarity satisfactory?

Two points to understand about clarity in coloured diamonds: first, because of colour and cut, inclusions are far less visible than in (near) colourless. Here is an I1 Fancy Deep Brownish-Yellow

 

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There is a large feather that crosses most of the stone, but it is only visible if you put the diamond in a tray, as in the photo below. Which BTW is still something like 15x natural size, and there is so much colour and faceting that the inclusion itself is not very visible even in these conditions.

 

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Second, clarity has a much lower price impact on fancy colours than it does on (near) colourless stones. You can get two Fancy Intense, one a VVS1 the other an SI2, and the SI2 may cost more because it has a better colour.

 

So, yes, VS2 is a reasonable starting point, but if I were you I'd be ready to be quite flexible if you find something which has a nice colour and is eye clean.

 

I'm thinking about a cushion or oval shape in a .75 CT - 1.00 CT. Is there a recommended "safe" online dealer? I would want the option of a return policy. I figure I can get a better deal online versus a brick and mortar retail store. Any suggestions from anyone? I know the fancy diamonds are generally expensive, but I only have about $3000 to spend. Is this possible at all?

 

Um. I work for a Coloured Diamond online dealer - Diamonds by Lauren - which puts me in the invidious position of having to recommend direct competition (or belittle them, which is only marginally better). The only other online coloured diamonds specialist that I would feel like recommending is Leibish & Co., who seem to have a host of cloned sites (same stock) coming up in various places. Quite a few colourless diamond dealers will also trade in fancy colours (DBOF do for sure), but no-one I think has the richness of stock (and photos, videos and information) that we have.

 

If you stay below the 1.00 threshold, a Fancy Light to Fancy Intense Yellow 0.70-0.90 is easily within reach - assuming you meant $3000 for the stone, not for the whole ring. Here's a few that we currently have for sale and roughly match your criteria:

 

http://rockdiamond.com/index.php/jewelry/loose-diamond-72ct-oval-shape-fancy-yellow-vs2-gia-long-tall-sally-r3801

http://rockdiamond.com/index.php/jewelry/loose-diamond-72ct-cushion-cut-fancy-intense-yellow-si1-gia-beautiful-stone-r3709

http://rockdiamond.com/index.php/jewelry/loose-diamond-65ct-cushion-cut-fancy-intense-yellow-si1-gia-beautiful-stone-r3795

http://rockdiamond.com/index.php/jewelry/loose-diamond-71ct-cushion-cut-fancy-yellow-vs1-gia-lovely-cut-r3796

 

If you want to go above 1 carat, either get a stone with brown in it (and believe me, there are some Fancy Brownish Yellows that look like liquid gold), or you need to be lucky in the S-T/U-V range. Here's an example of a good brownish yellow (though it's a much larger stone, at 1.58 ct)

 

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What's the difference in color between a yellow diamond and a yellow sapphire? I would really appreciate some input on this. Thanks!

Heh - good question. They both cover a range that goes from faint yellow, just perceptibly above white, to vivid, saturated yellow and yellow-orange. Diamond will ALWAYS have the upper edge in terms of liveliness, fire and sparkle, as well as being many times harder and more resistant to wear. It is also many times more costly...

 

Here is a nice yellow (possibly orangy-yellow) sapphire, 2.83 ct, $3295 including the ring.

 

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And here's a diamond in a very similar colour at $4995.

 

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...it's a (lovely) 0.36 ct.

Edited by davidelevi

Davide - Specialised Consumer Information and Assistance,
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WOW! Thank You for all the great information! But.... how can I be sure the jeweler knows how to set yellow stones, and what is the difference in setting yellow verses white diamonds?

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Well, the difference is that they are cut differently so they reflect light differently, and they need to be set with the right amount of yellow gold surrounding them, and the gold alloy has to be the right alloy, and ... Not more or less difficult than the skill of setting a white diamond in yellow gold and making it still look very white - both require knowledge and expertise.

 

How can you be sure? Ask the jeweller to show you examples of what they have done before. If they cannot show you a few examples of yellow diamonds that they have set, this is probably a sign that they haven't set many. If they can, then, take a look at their work. A nice light yellow diamond (W-X), unset looks like this:

 

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Set by someone that is OK but not great at setting yellows, it looks like this:

 

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Set by someone who is really good at setting yellows (us!), it looks like this:

 

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Oh Yes, I definitely see the difference of having the right skills... And, although I like the idea of the white stones to set off the yellow, I'm a 100% yellow gold girl. I wouldn't mind a white diamond accent, but I want all the mounting in yellow gold. I normally have white diamonds set using white gold prongs, but I don't want the ring to have a really visible amount of white gold. I would like14KT yellow gold, but I would do 18KT if recommended. Do you have any suggestions for mountings? I like bezel too. I am not a high maintenance woman, and I have a very casual lifestyle if that helps. It will be my wedding ring. I'm am getting this for my 15th anniversary. I don't want a band, but would like something that sets up a little off the hand. I am going to take a look at the web site and check out all the stones. Thank You!

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The white stones won't make too much difference to the contrast - it's the way the setting is built and the colour of the alloy used that make the yellow "pop".

 

This is one of my favourite rings - it belongs to a colleague:

 

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The stone is (IIRC) a 0.93 Y-Z radiant. The shank here is in white gold, but it could be easily done in yellow gold.

 

Similar concept - in white and pink gold, with a light brown pear - but with a split shank. Again, doing this in yellow is not a problem.

 

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Edited by davidelevi

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Diamonds by Lauren (http://www.diamondsbylauren.com)
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Here are a couple more DBL stones to consider that are higher in saturation and around your budget

.74ct Fancy Intense Yellow Cushion: http://rockdiamond.com/index.php/jewelry/loose-diamond-74ct-cushion-cut-fancy-intense-yellow-si2-gia-very-strong-color-r4150

 

.73 Fancy Yellow Oval: http://rockdiamond.com/index.php/jewelry/loose-diamond-73ct-oval-shape-fancy-yellow-si1-gia-strong-color-great-cut-r4166

Here is the link to the bezel settings Davide posted. They are a great value and look amazing, like liquid gold

Bezel Setting: http://rockdiamond.com/index.php/jewelry/semi-mount-ring-custom-double-bezel-ring-with-split-shank-so3924

 

I know you said casual and yellow gold, but I had to show you this finished ring. It is a classic design that would look amazing in any situation. David might be able to recreate it in yellow gold...

.70ct split shank: http://rockdiamond.com/index.php/jewelry/halo-diamond-ring-70-fancy-light-yellow-radiant-in-split-shank-halo-ring-r3161

 

ETA - My links are not "clickable" but I try to make them look like they are...it's an ego thing. Just copy and paste them into your browser.

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An0nym0us - thanks for posting these; there's a couple of near-invisible spaces in the links (possibly caused by the line breaks in the text), so they don't work with copy/paste. Here they are again as "real" links.

 

.74ct Fancy Intense Yellow Cushion: http://rockdiamond.com/index.php/jewelry/loose-diamond-74ct-cushion-cut-fancy-intense-yellow-si2-gia-very-strong-color-r4150

 

.73 Fancy Yellow Oval: http://rockdiamond.com/index.php/jewelry/loose-diamond-73ct-oval-shape-fancy-yellow-si1-gia-strong-color-great-cut-r4166

 

Bezel Setting: http://rockdiamond.com/index.php/jewelry/semi-mount-ring-custom-double-bezel-ring-with-split-shank-so3924

 

.70ct split shank: http://rockdiamond.com/index.php/jewelry/halo-diamond-ring-70-fancy-light-yellow-radiant-in-split-shank-halo-ring-r3161


Davide - Specialised Consumer Information and Assistance,
Diamonds by Lauren (http://www.diamondsbylauren.com)
davide@diamondsbylauren.com

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An0nym0us - thanks for posting these; there's a couple of near-invisible spaces in the links (possibly caused by the line breaks in the text), so they don't work with copy/paste. Here they are again as "real" links.

 

.74ct Fancy Intense Yellow Cushion: http://rockdiamond.com/index.php/jewelry/loose-diamond-74ct-cushion-cut-fancy-intense-yellow-si2- gia-very-strong-color-r4150

 

.73 Fancy Yellow Oval: http://rockdiamond.com/index.php/jewelry/loose-diamond-73ct-oval-shape-fancy-yellow-si1-gia-strong- color-great-cut-r4166

 

Bezel Setting: http://rockdiamond.com/index.php/jewelry/semi-mount-ring-custom-double-bezel-ring-with-split-shank- so3924

 

.70ct split shank: http://rockdiamond.com/index.php/jewelry/halo-diamond-ring-70-fancy-light-yellow-radiant-in-split- shank-halo-ring-r3161

 

Thanks Davide, I was pulling my hair out try to post clickable links, couldn't, stormed off to the tech support section and found out about the restriction. I probably screwed them up trying to edit them numerous times.

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I think you should mail Hermann/Laurie and ask them to add you to the "verified members" list. If I understand things correctly, the intention is not to restrict bona fide members, but to make life tougher for spammers and shills.

 

Diamondless - apologies for the threadjack.

Edited by davidelevi

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You two have given me a lot to think about. It is nice to know that I don't have to be as strict with the clarity when dealing with colored stones. I also notice that the cut is not mentioned on a lot of the GIA certificates as well. I think I can find something that will suit me in my price range. I will certainly keep these in mind, so once I do decide, I'll know what shape stone and mounting style I prefer. Right now, I'm thinking an oval, set east/west in a bezel frame, with a tiny bezel set white diamond on each side??? I think ovals normally tend to look larger than their counterparts in the same carat size, so this would give me a larger look for my money. Thanks again for all your help! (Both of you)

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Cut will not be graded at all by GIA on Fancy Colour (Fancy Light and up) diamonds, and the cut grade on N-Z rounds may well be slightly deceiving, because the cut grade is awarded based on proportions studied to produce the best effect in near-colourless diamonds... which means brightness and sparkle rather than colour intensity.

 

Ovals do tend to look large for their weight - but cut quality can be hugely variable. Just be careful to see the stone from many angles.


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davide@diamondsbylauren.com

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Hi again, I just saw this ring on the site. This is the first time for me adding a link, so it may not work, but here goes....

rockdiamond.com/index.php/jewelry/three-stone-ring-62ctw-fancy-light-yellow-radiant-cut-diamonds-halo-diamond-ring-r3736

I love the look of this. I also realize that it is not a very large ring. I had previously owned a .97ct., 5-diamond band which I liked the size of. They were 5 diamonds .194 each. I'm thinking with these having the white diamonds around them, It's possible to have the same look as the 5 in a row band?? I wear a size 6 and would want something to cover the width of the finger.

I especially love the bezel stones on the front and back. This could be done in all yellow gold and still look beautiful don't you think? Also, if I decided that I wanted a diamond band, could I put one with this type setting?

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This ring sounds very similar to what you are looking for, unfortunately it has sold, but I am positive David could create a new one for you!

 

http://rockdiamond.com/index.php/jewelry/halo-diamond-ring--69-oval-set-east-west

 

ETA- in order for the link to work you have to cut and paste between the "" box thingies (sorry for the technical terminology).

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Hi again, I just saw this ring on the site. This is the first time for me adding a link, so it may not work, but here goes.... http://rockdiamond.com/index.php/jewelry/three-stone-ring-62ctw-fancy-light-yellow-radiant-cut-diamonds-halo-diamond-ring-r3736

 

I love the look of this. I also realize that it is not a very large ring. I had previously owned a .97ct., 5-diamond band which I liked the size of. They were 5 diamonds .194 each. I'm thinking with these having the white diamonds around them, It's possible to have the same look as the 5 in a row band?? I wear a size 6 and would want something to cover the width of the finger.

 

I especially love the bezel stones on the front and back. This could be done in all yellow gold and still look beautiful don't you think? Also, if I decided that I wanted a diamond band, could I put one with this type setting?

 

I'm confused. Do you mean recreating the look of the 3 halo'd stones but with 5? Or do you mean creating one single large halo with 5 stones? I think in either case getting the "side bezel" done with 5 stones will result in a top that is unacceptably tall and wide.


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davide@diamondsbylauren.com

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Ohhhhh, I'm sorry I didn't explain very well. I like the 3 stone halo that was referred to in the link. I was only trying to compare the size of the ring on my finger between what a 5 stone ring looks like in comparison to the 3 stone. That still may not make sense. The 5 stone ring with each stone being .19 ct. covered across my finger completely. I'm thinking with a ring like this only having 3 stones that it would be much smaller, but by them having a halo mounting, it would end up about the same width as the 5 stone. I want the ring to cover the width of my finger... I think I would like a ring exactly like this 3 stone, except I would want it all in 18kt yellow gold. I don't know how much more it would cost to have the yellow diamonds .30 each? And would it be necessary to use larger white diamonds on the halo or would the size of these do? I can't tell for sure in the pictures, but are the white diamonds on this ring in yellow gold prongs as well? If that's the case, then I think this style ring would still look beautiful in an all yellow gold mounting. What do you think?

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The metal is not an issue - it is perfectly possible to do the ring all in 18K yellow. The one you like has all the top diamonds set in yellow, and the shank and bezel set diamonds in white. I personally like the contrast, particularly considering that the shank and side view are "hidden" in normal life, but it would look beautiful either way.

 

Larger diamonds not a problem either - just a matter of finding the right ones. Cost not hugely different, but bear in mind that diamond prices have shot up by 20% in the last few months. The melee size would be a matter of what is needed to get a good visual fit - I don't think you'd need to increase the size with a slightly larger centre, but we may need to do so slightly to avoid having too much metal on show (or go down slightly for the same reason: fit 4 stones instead of 3; unfortunately, can't do 3.5!)

 

Final point on size: the width of a 0.30 would be typically just under 4 mm, where a .20 is around 3. And 3 mm of difference in the width of the main stones could translate to about 5 mm of width difference for the whole ring. To give you a sense of proportion, this is what the ring with 3x 0.20 looked like on a size 12 finger... so perhaps the smaller stones are fine, after all? ;)

 

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Diamonds by Lauren (http://www.diamondsbylauren.com)
davide@diamondsbylauren.com

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You are right, the smaller diamonds may be fine. I was thinking I would like them a little larger. I have a yellow to my skin color and look horrible in white gold. I do not like white gold, but I don't usually like white diamonds in yellow gold prongs either. I have had several rings were the top was white gold with the mounted stones, but the shank and main portion of the ring was yellow gold. So what would be the solution for this? I have never, nor do I have now, any piece of white gold jewelry. I don't like it mixed either, with the exception I have given. I could live with the top halo stones in the white. But wouldn't it be necessary for the yellow diamonds to be in yellow gold in order for them to look best?

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My husband took a look at the lauren site and he likes this one. My problem is all the white gold... I like the diamonds in it, but I don't like the actually body of the ring and shank being white. I wish there was a way around this. I really like the style too. Oh well, can't have it all. But, I know if I see too much white, it's not for me. I need to go try on some rings to get a feel for what I want. Maybe that will help, even though I know I will not want anymore white gold than is necessary.

http://rockdiamond.com/index.php/jewelry/halo-diamond-ring-70-fancy-light-yellow-radiant-in-split-shank-halo-ring-r3161

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Diamondless - we can replace the white gold shank (and anything else) with a yellow gold one. In either design (3 stone or 1 stone). It's not a problem.

 

The latest ring you have linked ( http://rockdiamond.com/index.php/jewelry/halo-diamond-ring-70-fancy-light-yellow-radiant-in- split-shank-halo-ring-r3161 ) has a yellow gold "basket" to which the prongs - also YG - are attached.

 

WG or platinum is the most common preference, but there are people that want all yellow, and we can do that.


Davide - Specialised Consumer Information and Assistance,
Diamonds by Lauren (http://www.diamondsbylauren.com)
davide@diamondsbylauren.com

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Hi Guys!

Actually we have different levels of how much we can use metal to halo the color of a yellow.

In the case of R3161, that's about the lowest level- prongs only in yellow - the rest of the ring is 14kt white gold.

We can take additional steps from adding a small "ring" inder the stone, all the way up to creating a basket under the stone.

 

Thank so much to Davide and Daimondless!!

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you can purchase the similar diamond ring and change the style as you like.

On the other hand, maybe you can stop making inane comments on old threads? Your behaviour has been reported for moderation.

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