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Asscher Vs. Tiffany's Princess Cut


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Hi everyone. It's getting to that time for me where after 5+ years I'm going to pop the question. The lady and I were in Tiffany's the other day and she decided that she prefered the princess cut over the round cut (or any others). Something about the stone (1.26 carat, VVS1, I, $11,500) just didn't do it for me and I couldn't figure out what until I looked at some of the photos online of the asscher cut stones. I have a few more focused questions to follow, thanks for any and all help on this!

 

1) I have run a search and looked at the previous threads discussing Asschers in general and it seems the concensus is that there aren't any "ideal" dimensions for this cut. Is this still the concensus? Some of the posts were a bit old.

 

2) Has anyone else seen the Tiffany's new princess cut and if so, what did you think?

 

3) Does anyone know of a location in the philadelphia area where I could look at a princess and asscher cut side-by-side? I was thinking Neimann Marcus since it is listed on the royal asscher website as an authorized retailer.

 

4) I'm thinking that the ideal stone for me would be a VS1-2 and a D-F color since I'm not too concerned with anything that isn't visible to the naked eye. Since the asscher cut makes it easier to spot flaws is this approach perhaps misguided or does that rating of VS1 still indicate that 10x microscopy would be needed to see that flaw?

 

5) I do not believe Tiffany's makes an asscher cut so are there any other reputable stores that sell them? I am a bit sketched out making an online purchase dispite what I have read which should lead me to feel comfortable with the process. In addition, it is a fact that my GF will certainly like the fact that the ring came from a store she has a positive feeling about rather than a website (which she would immediatley feel sketched about as well). I'm not "dissing" online buying it's just that I know in my case it's not the right move.

 

6) If anyone has a picture wearing an asscher it would be a HUGE help just so I can gauge the proper size to look at. My GF has stated that she is "hand off" from this point on since she wants to be surprised with the timing and the actual ring. I'm looking for a solitare but anything would be great for a point of reference.

 

Thanks again in advance and I apologize for the lengthy post.

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Asscher’s are cool to be sure but your statement that she prefers princess cut over all others seems pretty conclusive to me.

 

Pretty much every dealer will have princess cuts to show you so the trick is going to be to find someone with an Asscher that you can look at. It may seem low tech, but a trip through the yellow pages may be helpful and just call up a few and ask them what they can show you. Look at stones in person for questions like this. Photographs are just not sufficient to decide if you like one facet pattern better than another.

 

Neil

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Asscher’s are cool to be sure but your statement that she prefers princess cut over all others seems pretty conclusive to me.

 

Oh trust me, it certainly would be however she hasn't seen an asscher cut yet. She made he mind up between round and princess while we were at Tiffany's. I came home and started looking into cushion cuts and the asscher turned up. I've yet to see one in person but from the pictures I've seen they look amazing and still have the squared shape of the princess cut that she really liked. Thanks for the help!

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Hi Ironmikey

 

I'm not an expert but a girl who has just bought an asscher diamond engagement ring with my fiancee (he couldn't be trusted on his own I'm afraid).

 

Personally I love the Asscher cut it's just so interesting to look into - I've been gazing at it for a few weeks now. None of my friends have ever seen one before and all have really admired it (so that's a bonus too - originality). I got a D VS1 and can't see any flaws - not sure what the effect of lower colours would be but the D just looks really white and bright. My cut is very square though I've seen some on the internet that are a bit more hexagonal.

 

As for size, I'm not sure - depends on what your girl's expectations are and how much you can afford. I've got small hands and slim fingers (I'm only 5ft 2) so a 0.62 carat solitaire looks big on me - might be also that I'm in London, England maybe we buy smaller rings here as it's similar or bigger than most people's I've seen? If you can, compare some larger and smaller stones as I also saw a bigger Asscher and I preferred the look of the smaller stone.

 

Get a nice simple platinum band if going for a Asscher solitaire I'd say (but again that's my taste).

 

Shopping in London at specialist diamond shops (all centred around Hatton Garden in central London) most did not have any Asscher cuts in (though did sell them occassionally) but the shop I got mine from had a selection of different size stones so you should hopefully be able to find a shop where the owner likes this style and has some in.

 

Photos come out disastrously (I've got requests from family to email them), whether my digital camera is rubbish or the sparkliness can't be captured I don't know. If you still want a photo reply to this post and i'll do my best!

 

Bethany

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Thanks for the reply and all the useful info. If you feel like posting the pics I'd love to see them.

 

Hi Ironmikey

 

I'm not an expert but a girl who has just bought an asscher diamond engagement ring with my fiancee (he couldn't be trusted on his own I'm afraid).

 

Personally I love the Asscher cut it's just so interesting to look into - I've been gazing at it for a few weeks now. None of my friends have ever seen one before and all have really admired it (so that's a bonus too - originality). I got a D VS1 and can't see any flaws - not sure what the effect of lower colours would be but the D just looks really white and bright. My cut is very square though I've seen some on the internet that are a bit more hexagonal.

 

As for size, I'm not sure - depends on what your girl's expectations are and how much you can afford. I've got small hands and slim fingers (I'm only 5ft 2) so a 0.62 carat solitaire looks big on me - might be also that I'm in London, England maybe we buy smaller rings here as it's similar or bigger than most people's I've seen? If you can, compare some larger and smaller stones as I also saw a bigger Asscher and I preferred the look of the smaller stone.

 

Get a nice simple platinum band if going for a Asscher solitaire I'd say (but again that's my taste).

 

Shopping in London at specialist diamond shops (all centred around Hatton Garden in central London) most did not have any Asscher cuts in (though did sell them occassionally) but the shop I got mine from had a selection of different size stones so you should hopefully be able to find a shop where the owner likes this style and has some in.

 

Photos come out disastrously (I've got requests from family to email them), whether my digital camera is rubbish or the sparkliness can't be captured I don't know. If you still want a photo reply to this post and i'll do my best!

 

Bethany

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