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Hello All

 

I am currently shopping online for a princess cut diamond. I wanted to stay close to a carat give or take.  I came across this one and was wondering was it a good choice.  My budget is roughly 5k.  The diamond below is $3,300

 

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Whether it is a "good choice" depends on what you are looking for. It is near a carat, and it is within your budget.

We know next to nothing about how it's cut, which is the single most important attribute in determining looks.

If it were me shopping, I would definitely drop clarity to VS2 or SI1, and get something that is

  • Larger
  • Cheaper
  • Better cut
  • some or all of the above in various combination

I may also want something that is a higher colour, but that is very much a personal preference

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Taking your advice, this is what I'm thinking...I kept the ideal cut, upped size , upped the color to H and dropped the clarity to SI1.  I'm at $4,700.  Doesn't leave me a whole lot of room for a setting, but I can push the budget for it. 

 

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I'm not familiar enough with the Astor line at BN - and while some of the old frequent posters here were swearing by the brilliancescope (Gemex), I never particularly liked their lack of transparency (what the hell does that scale represent? Gemex never disclosed how they got there, at least to my knowledge), so the cut, while promising, remains uncertain in my mind...

FWIW, and bearing in mind I'm a competitor of both BN and WF, take a look at this https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/princess-cut-loose-diamond-4324156.htm

I'm far more comfortable recommending their cut... and it's a pretty good match for the H/SI1 at BN.

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You've got plenty of financial room here and are getting a little more by dropping a little below 1.00.  You're spending it on VVS1.  May I ask why?  What are the parameters you are using to evaluate the cutting?

For example, here are 71 stones that are WAY under your budget.  BTW I haven't looked at ANY of them. 

https://www.diamondreview.com/diamonds?sortOrder=price&sortDesc=0&fShape=Prin&fCaratLo=1.00&fCaratHi=1.49&fColorLo=H&fColorHi=H&fClarityLo=SI1&fClarityHi=SI1&fCutLo=&fCutHi=poor&fDepthLo=50.0&fDepthHi=80.0&fTableLo=40.0&fTableHi=80.0&fSymLo=&fSymHi=poor&fPolLo=&fPolHi=poor&fCulLo=&fCulHi=vlarge&fFlrLo=&fFlrHi=vstrong&fPriceLo=0&fPriceHi=4000&fLabGIA=1

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In reality I really don't know what I'm doing.  After researching the 4c's...I'm still shooting in the dark.  I'm pretty much moving the sliders as high as I can in all categories and still stay within my budget.  So I figured a top cut and near top clarity were important.  I always heard VVS this and VVS that..ignorant I know lol. With that said...I went ahead and bought something out of frustration and because I was tired of looking (see below).  I don't have much guidance from her, aside from the fact she likes princess cuts.  She is a ICU nurse and actually wants just a rubber ring, because that's all she will be able to wear to work anyway. She likes nice things and I know she is just giving me an easy way out, because she knows this isn't my forte. She comes home stressed everyday due to Covid and I just don't want to stress her even more by browsing websites with her and essentially picking every little detail about the ring herself.  I just want to get it done and present her with something I know she will truly like, because she just doesn't have the capacity right now to hold my hand through the process.  I've read y'all recent replies and now see I will probably be sending it back and starting all over with the links given. 

https://www.bluenile.com/build-your-own-ring/diamond-details/LD14811756?offerId=60613

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I second the motion to send it back. Blue Nile's "cut grades" are not worth the digital ink they are printed with - unless they offer some other evidence to back them up with (which - outside "branded" lines - they don't).

Happy to help with sorting out priorities and selecting something better!

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Cut grading on princesses is a tricky issue. There is NO agreed upon standard. GIA doesn’t do it at all. AGS has a scale, but hardly anyone uses it. I’m with Davide that the BN thing is useless fluff but it’s not really much better if you go elsewhere and it *IS* pretty easy.  You could do worse than to just hold your nose and go with what they say. They’re a good company and you’re going to get a certain amount of BS no matter where you go. This is definitely a rabbit hole that can suck up a ton of time and emotional energy if you let it. 

Clarity is better understood. In terms of visibility and durability, Flawless will look just like VS2 without magnification. Usually even WITH magnification unless you know what you are looking at. People buy F and VVS for symbolic reasons, and those are good reasons by the way, but you won’t see it and neither will she. It affects the price by 25% or so. That’s a fair amount if it’s true that neither you nor she cares.

Color is a similar issue.  The difference between E and I is on the order of 50% to price and most people can’t tell the difference after it’s mounted.  Will it matter to you or her? Who knows? Unlike clarity, eagle eyes can see it, but that’s not the same as objecting to it. The ‘typical’ internet shopper lands on G/H for exactly this reason. FWIW, I wear a 0.93 K superideal round and no one has EVER noticed the color, even after I point it out.

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