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Hi! came across this forum while looking for advice on a loose diamond i've come acrossed. Here are the specs from the GIA Report; 

 

Carat: 0.81 

Clarity - SI1 

Cut - Excellent 

Colour - F 

Depth - 63.1%

Table - 56% 

Crown Angle - 34 deg

Crown height 15%

Pavilion Angle -  41.6 deg 

Pavilion Depth - 44% 

Star Length 50% 

Lower Half - 75% 

 

I really just started looking at the 4C's about 2 weeks ago. Everything is very new to me and its overwhelming!!! i'm more so looking to find an answer if these specifications fall under a good fit for an engagement ring. Hope everyone can give there two cents !  😁😁😁 

TIA

 

 

 

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Is it a good fit for an engagement ring?  Yes.  Could you find a better cut diamond?  Yes. 

Your question is a little ambiguous as we really do not know what you are looking for.  As for the specifics on this particular stone, I try to keep the overall depths of round stones shallower that 62.6% and my pavilion angles shallower than 41.2°.  Because your depth is at 63.1% and PA at 41.6°, I would expect the center of this diamond to be fairly dark.  The other downside is that it would look bigger if it were not as deep.

 

I hope this helps.  I know that others will answer more in depth (no pun intended).

 


Laurent George
Diamond Ideals
New York City

www.diamondideals.com
212-207-4845
laurent@diamondideals.com

 

 

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14 minutes ago, LaurentGeorge said:

Is it a good fit for an engagement ring?  Yes.  Could you find a better cut diamond?  Yes.

This.

Plus another couple of observations: 1) a 0.80 SI1 is usually eye-clean (you can't see the inclusions with your naked eye), but not all of them are; we have no indication about that, unless you have seen the stone in person. 2) You may like the way it looks both from a cut and a clarity point of view, but you may be paying an unfair price.

Here's a few comparable diamonds being retailed online (excellent cut but depth around 63% or higher):

https://www.diamondreview.com/diamonds?sortOrder=price&sortDesc=1&fShape=Rnd&fCaratLo=0.80&fCaratHi=0.85&fColorLo=F&fColorHi=F&fClarityLo=SI1&fClarityHi=SI1&fCutLo=exc&fCutHi=exc&fDepthLo=63.0&fDepthHi=100.0&fTableLo=0.0&fTableHi=100.0&fSymLo=&fSymHi=poor&fPolLo=&fPolHi=poor&fCulLo=&fCulHi=vlarge&fFlrLo=&fFlrHi=vstrong&fPriceLo=0&fPriceHi=1000000000&adv=1

Note that there is a broad range of prices - largely because some SI1 inclusions are more visible than others. Also note that a high street, brick-and-mortar store will have higher costs than a typical internet retailer and will therefore legitimately charge higher prices.


Davide - Specialised Consumer Information and Assistance,
Diamonds by Lauren (http://www.diamondsbylauren.com)
davide@diamondsbylauren.com

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49 minutes ago, davidelevi said:

This.

Plus another couple of observations: 1) a 0.80 SI1 is usually eye-clean (you can't see the inclusions with your naked eye), but not all of them are; we have no indication about that, unless you have seen the stone in person. 2) You may like the way it looks both from a cut and a clarity point of view, but you may be paying an unfair price.

Here's a few comparable diamonds being retailed online (excellent cut but depth around 63% or higher):

https://www.diamondreview.com/diamonds?sortOrder=price&sortDesc=1&fShape=Rnd&fCaratLo=0.80&fCaratHi=0.85&fColorLo=F&fColorHi=F&fClarityLo=SI1&fClarityHi=SI1&fCutLo=exc&fCutHi=exc&fDepthLo=63.0&fDepthHi=100.0&fTableLo=0.0&fTableHi=100.0&fSymLo=&fSymHi=poor&fPolLo=&fPolHi=poor&fCulLo=&fCulHi=vlarge&fFlrLo=&fFlrHi=vstrong&fPriceLo=0&fPriceHi=1000000000&adv=1

Note that there is a broad range of prices - largely because some SI1 inclusions are more visible than others. Also note that a high street, brick-and-mortar store will have higher costs than a typical internet retailer and will therefore legitimately charge higher prices.

Found a private jeweler.  His price is 4300 cdn. For loose diamond only. Fair price?

1 hour ago, LaurentGeorge said:

Is it a good fit for an engagement ring?  Yes.  Could you find a better cut diamond?  Yes. 

Your question is a little ambiguous as we really do not know what you are looking for.  As for the specifics on this particular stone, I try to keep the overall depths of round stones shallower that 62.6% and my pavilion angles shallower than 41.2°.  Because your depth is at 63.1% and PA at 41.6°, I would expect the center of this diamond to be fairly dark.  The other downside is that it would look bigger if it were not as deep.

 

I hope this helps.  I know that others will answer more in depth (no pun intended).

 

Thanks for your feedback It looked like it sparkled. Maybe cause it was under a light? 

 

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It is always best to compare diamonds to other diamonds and see what attracts you to one or the other.  Unfortunately, jewelers tend to showcase their stones under multiple spotlights and light sources.  The more light sources you have, the more diamonds will sparkle, even the very poorly cut ones.

 


Laurent George
Diamond Ideals
New York City

www.diamondideals.com
212-207-4845
laurent@diamondideals.com

 

 

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2 hours ago, mceeha said:

Fair price?

Within the bounds of reason - assuming it's eye clean (and possibly the price is including some form of GST?); certainly not a bargain. The issue - as Laurent has already said - is that you can definitely do better, but if this is the only diamond you have been shown the jeweller isn't helping very much...


Davide - Specialised Consumer Information and Assistance,
Diamonds by Lauren (http://www.diamondsbylauren.com)
davide@diamondsbylauren.com

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