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Can someone help me identify the name, color, carat and clarity of this ring? I look everywhere in Harry Winston website cannot find it.

Thanks!!

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19 minutes ago, denverappraiser said:

Find a local appraiser.  Where are you and I’ll try and get you a referral.

I live in New Haven, CT 06511. Thank you!

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FWIW, it seems to be a 1920s design - which could make the Harry Winston box an "association", since they opened in 1932. However, to get any reasonable certainty on anything (including the date) an in-person inspection by a competent appraiser is a very very good start!

Please let us know what you find; it's a very nice ring.


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It’s funny. My first question was to know why you think it’s a HW ring. Was it the box or is the ring actually stamped Harry Winston?


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On 2/22/2020 at 1:12 PM, LaurentGeorge said:

It’s funny. My first question was to know why you think it’s a HW ring. Was it the box or is the ring actually stamped Harry Winston?

Good question. I actually don't know if is HW or not. We are assuming it is Because of Box. Thats why post here if Anyone can help. I look at their website and couldnt find it.

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I don't think you will find it anywhere; it seems to be a 1920s ring which would rule it out; it may have been retailed by Harry Winston at some point; they have (or have had) a large "estate jewellery" department. Does it have HW marks? This is a recent version:

Image result for harry winston hallmark

they have changed over the years, so there are plenty of other versions, but as far as I know all have "HW" in them.


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4 hours ago, davidelevi said:

I don't think you will find it anywhere; it seems to be a 1920s ring which would rule it out; it may have been retailed by Harry Winston at some point; they have (or have had) a large "estate jewellery" department. Does it have HW marks? This is a recent version:

Image result for harry winston hallmark

they have changed over the years, so there are plenty of other versions, but as far as I know all have "HW" in them.

My wife show me this picture. Its her friend's engagement ring she said she likes it. Trying to see if I'm able to find one. But from everyone saying maybe this no longer available because made form 1920s? Very curious then how her friend's fiance able to get it.

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People buy and sell jewellery second-hand - there are several merchants that specialise in it and 1920s engagement rings are plentiful. Here's nearly 1,000 of them, and that did not require me to try very hard:

https://www.1stdibs.com/search/jewelry/rings/?oq=1920s engagement ring&q=1920s engagement ring

however, now that we understand the situation a little better, perhaps a call to Harry Winston to confirm whether this is one of their models would be useful? As I mentioned above, one other option is that it was retailed by HW's estate jewellery department which was much larger in the past. They now call it"vintage jewelry", and it seems to be restricted to HW-produced pieces 
https://www.harrywinston.com/en/vintage-jewelry

Edited by davidelevi
Added explanation re: Vintage HW

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4 hours ago, davidelevi said:

People buy and sell jewellery second-hand - there are several merchants that specialise in it and 1920s engagement rings are plentiful. Here's nearly 1,000 of them, and that did not require me to try very hard:

https://www.1stdibs.com/search/jewelry/rings/?oq=1920s engagement ring&q=1920s engagement ring

however, now that we understand the situation a little better, perhaps a call to Harry Winston to confirm whether this is one of their models would be useful? As I mentioned above, one other option is that it was retailed by HW's estate jewellery department which was much larger in the past. They now call it"vintage jewelry", and it seems to be restricted to HW-produced pieces 
https://www.harrywinston.com/en/vintage-jewelry

I email them along with the picture and is been 4 business days still no response. Is hard to detail the ring over the phone without seeing it.

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4 hours ago, LaurentGeorge said:

Are there any marks or stamps on the ring itself?

We only got the image of the ring haven't see it in person yet.

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Nice box.

FWIW, phone calls generally work better for this sort of thing.  Random people who found pictures on the Internet and who have never even seen the item but want a free opinion requiring research may not be high on their email response list.  The phone is harder to ignore. 


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17 hours ago, denverappraiser said:

Nice box.

FWIW, phone calls generally work better for this sort of thing.  Random people who found pictures on the Internet and who have never even seen the item but want a free opinion requiring research may not be high on their email response list.  The phone is harder to ignore. 

Thanks. Now after reading this thread I have feeling that this ring might not even be HW. Is probably just the box make you think it is.

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Very possible. HW boxes like the one in your photo are on sale on eBay

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=harry+winston+ring+box&_sacat=0

one vendor has sold over 50 of them... and has more available!


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4 hours ago, davidelevi said:

Very possible. HW boxes like the one in your photo are on sale on eBay

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=harry+winston+ring+box&_sacat=0

one vendor has sold over 50 of them... and has more available!

I wouldn't count on the box being genuine HW either. 


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2 hours ago, denverappraiser said:

I wouldn't count on the box being genuine HW either. 

With 60+ units for sale, they must have fallen off the back of the truck delivering to HW... 😉

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1 hour ago, Unknown said:

I probably will head over to HW store next month to verify if this even their product. I will keep you all update.

There's no HW store here so I've never been in one but most of the fancy designer types won't agree to do that, at least not without a substantial fee.  It's free to ask, but don't be surprised if you get a runaround.  


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So I finally was able to receive an answer from HW Corp. their designer told me this ring was not made by HW or made by USA.  This make so much more sense now why i can't find anywhere throughout the sites. 

Thanks all for the help!

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Thank you for the update.

Good to know, though not very helpful to you if you are planning to get another ring like it. Do take a look at the link I posted above: there are similar rings for sale!


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