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Yvonne Bruggink

Review of HRD 1.02ct F VVS2 3x VG

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Dear all, 

After 21 years my boyfriend popped the question. I now checked the certificate and HCA and now i'm in doubt. What do you think about this diamond? 

It's a 1.02 rare white+ (F) brilliant round

VVS2

Cut:

Proportions VG

Polish VG

Symmetry VG

Measurements 6.63x6.73mm x 3.86mm

Girdle medium 3.0% faceted

Culet pointed

Td 57.9%

Table width 63%

Crown height 11% (30.0 deg)

Pavilion depth 44.0% (41.5 deg)

Length halve crowns 45%

Length halves pavilion 80%

Thanks in advance for reply😊

Greetings Yvonne

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Congratulations!  You boyfriend is one lucky guy to have found such a patient partner!  

What would you like to know ?  The proportions indicate the stone is very spready. It is shallow with a wide open table. This results in a stone that looks larger than it is but is likely to lack the brilliance found in more traditionally cut diamonds.  That said, some people find this to be very appealing.  Not that is bears any relevance but have to assume this stone did not score too well on the HCA. 

 


Laurent George
Diamond Ideals
New York City

www.diamondideals.com
212-207-4845
laurent@diamondideals.com

 

 

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Thx for your fast reply. I tought the diamond would be a lot sparklier in daylight. In the sun and spotlight its oké. The HCA score was 3.1 

Light return: Very good

Fire: Good

Scintillation: Fair

Spread: Excellent

OVERALL: it's say Very good and worth buying if the price is right. Probably sparkles OK and looks bigger than usual for its carat weight. If the HCA is less than 2.5, and you can see good Hearts and Arrows, it can be a nice diamond. Confirm with Ideal-scope, ASET scope or send to an appraiser. I don't no if and what the results where with the scopes....

What is a right price for this stone? 

Hope you can help with it, thx very much! 

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2 hours ago, Yvonne Bruggink said:

I tought the diamond would be a lot sparklier in daylight. In the sun and spotlight its oké.

This doesn't sound like something you love at first sight... or something you anticipated getting for 21 years. The key question here, independent of numbers, letters, prices and anything else is: do you like it?

Secondly, if you don't love it, can you (he) return it without penalty and change it for something else? What would the something else need to do differently?

2 hours ago, Yvonne Bruggink said:

What is a right price for this stone?

That depends quite a bit on who graded it F/VVS2. Assuming it's HRD (one of the labs that uses the label "Fine White"), you are at least reasonably certain it is an F/VVS2. If it's somebody else, it depends on who it is!

The other major factor impacting prices is where you buy. A luxury jeweller in Antwerp or Brussels (I assume, from your name!) is one thing, a non-descript internet retailer is quite another. For what it's worth, similar stones are retailed on the internet for between USD 6,300 and 7,700. Add on European VAT at ~20% and change into €, and you have a possible retail price of between €7,000 and €8,500 - on the internet; in a retail store, prices will almost certainly be higher and could be 50%-100% higher (or more!) in a "high luxury brand" store like Cartier or Van Cleef.

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There is also no information on fluorescence, which can impact the price considerably.  You can go to the DiamondFinder above to search for similar stones and see where you stand on price.    As Davide says above, where you make your purchase plays a big role in how much you pay.  As vendors listing on the DiamondFinder, we do not include VAT and our prices are in USD, but it is not hard to translate up.


Laurent George
Diamond Ideals
New York City

www.diamondideals.com
212-207-4845
laurent@diamondideals.com

 

 

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HRD is a reliable enough lab but I’m curious how you picked this particular stone. High clarity(VVS2), high color(F), low cutting (VG, VG, VG) is an unusual combination.  Did you pick this or was it the dealer selling it?

There are 481 superficially comparable stones in the diamondfinder database here, for example. 440 of them are graded as better cut than this one (as mentioned by Laurent above, they may have other issues that come into play but cutting seems to be your question given what you've told us about the stone.)


https://www.diamondreview.com/diamonds?sortOrder=price&sortDesc=1&fShape=Rnd&fCaratLo=1.00&fCaratHi=1.05&fColorLo=F&fColorHi=F&fClarityLo=VVS2&fClarityHi=VVS2&fCutLo=&fCutHi=poor&fDepthLo=50.0&fDepthHi=80.0&fTableLo=40.0&fTableHi=80.0&fSymLo=&fSymHi=poor&fPolLo=&fPolHi=poor&fCulLo=&fCulHi=vlarge&fFlrLo=&fFlrHi=vstrong&fPriceLo=0&fPriceHi=1000000&fLabGIA=1&adv=1

Edited by denverappraiser

Neil Beaty

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Thx all for reply. The flourescent is nil. And it's indeed an HRD certificate. We went to one of Antwerps most brilliant jewellerstores. We live in the Netherlands wich isn't far away from Antwerp, Belgium. I tought that a VG cut was also a high cutting because only excellent is above and i didn't now about the HCA scope so now i've noticed it I'm in doubt. I tought it was a good deal/ diamond because it looked bigger more like a 1.2ct. In the store all the diamonds sparkled a lot so i don't think i could tell the difference anymore. But it was me that said that it was a nice stone, only one small pinpoint on the side.. In my mind (wich ofcourse could be terrible wrong) a diamond should always sparkle even when there's no (sun) light on the ring. But since I now have it, it doesn't sparkle all the time. My boyfriend bought it in january for approx. €8000 incl. A 18k white gold ring with 0.1c tw on sidesstones with D/E color and VVS clarity. I don't now if we can return / change it, altough the jeweller said that we always can get an upgrade with the same value.

I'm gonna check above link. I knew that cut was the most important factor but I really tought that a VG cut was also a high cutting grade. 🙈 I didn't do my homework properly I think.

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I totally believe it's a nice stone.  I'm criticizing the grading scale, not your diamond.

The problem with the cut scale is this:

 

Here's the whole scale:

Excellent
Very Good
Good
Fair
Poor

 

That makes VG look pretty good, it’s just below the best and it's usually reflected in the price, but look from the other end. Just try and find a poor, fair, or even a good. I’ll wait. Using the diamondfinder as broadly as I can, there are 524,000 round stones listed at the moment.  18,000 are Good and 1508 are Fair.  None are Poor.  The bottom 3 grades combined are only 3%!  VG has 346,000, a little over half, but when I limit it to VG VG(or worse) symmetry and polish it drops all the way to 21,000.  94% are better on paper than that!  That’s not an entirely fair test, some VG VG VGs are pretty darned good, and sometimes the issues are more subtle than those polish and symmetry grades indicate, but seeing it as almost the top is a serious misunderstanding of the scale.

https://www.diamondreview.com/diamonds?sortOrder=carat&sortDesc=0&fShape=Rnd&fCaratLo=0.10&fCaratHi=8.96&fColorLo=D&fColorHi=Z&fClarityLo=FL&fClarityHi=I3&fCutLo=vgood&fCutHi=poor&fDepthLo=50.0&fDepthHi=80.0&fTableLo=40.0&fTableHi=80.0&fSymLo=vgood&fSymHi=poor&fPolLo=vgood&fPolHi=poor&fCulLo=&fCulHi=vlarge&fFlrLo=&fFlrHi=vstrong&fPriceLo=0&fPriceHi=1000000&fLabGIA=1&adv=1

Edited by denverappraiser

Neil Beaty

GG(GIA) ICGA(AGS) NAJA

 

There's never a crowd when you go that extra mile.

Professional Appraisals in Denver

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