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I will propose to my girlfriend and I'm about to buy a diamond. My knowledge is limited so I need advice. Is it worth the price?

Carat: 1,74
Color: F
Clarity: I2
Cut grade: Excellent
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Flourescence: Strong blue
Comments: Additional clouds, pinpoints and surface graining are not shown.

Price: 5100 USD

Kind regards

David
 

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That is a considerably included diamond and it's transparency and lustre will not be very good I think. Only buy if you have seen it and you actually like it. 


Swanstar Diamonds.
http://www.swanstar.com.au
Melbourne, Australia.

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Have you seen/can you see the diamond in person prior to buying it?

If not, does the vendor have a clear return policy that allows you to get all - and I mean all - your money back for whatever reason (or no reason at all) for a reasonable period of time - at least a week, ideally longer?

If the answer to both questions is no, then pass. No further examination needed; the risk is too high.

 


Davide - Specialised Consumer Information and Assistance,
Diamonds by Lauren (http://www.diamondsbylauren.com)
davide@diamondsbylauren.com

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I haven't seen it in person yet but I will be able to. As I am a novice when it comes to diamonds, what shall I look for? I've read that "strong blue" with clarity "I2" the diamond can look a little bit hazy.

So can you experts guide me towards what to look for?

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Any diamond with I2 clarity grade has a potential to look hazy - with or without fluorescence. 

In that price range you can get a 1.00 carat G color SI1 with strong flourescence or a G color SI2 without flourescence (none fluro). Excellent cut. 


Swanstar Diamonds.
http://www.swanstar.com.au
Melbourne, Australia.

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13 minutes ago, davedolphin said:

I haven't seen it in person yet but I will be able to. As I am a novice when it comes to diamonds, what shall I look for? I've read that "strong blue" with clarity "I2" the diamond can look a little bit hazy.

So can you experts guide me towards what to look for?

Not this...😁

Start going out and looking at all diamonds - you need to understand what your money gets you, and dealing with F vs. G vs. I, SI1 vs I2 vs VVS2, 6.5 mm vs. 7.5 mm, 1.03 vs. 1.70 ct at the moment probably means nothing to you. You need to get some terms of reference, and that can only be done by seeing the things.

Stick to GIA and AGS-graded stones in this phase, and focus on understanding what your priorities are: does 1 carat look large enough? Can you see the colour in I or J coloured stones? Can you see the differences between an Excellent cut and a Very Good? What about between Excellent and another Excellent?

Until you have at least a tentative answer to some of these questions, leave your wallet at home! (And even once you have a tentative answer; the moment to pull out the wallet is when you are clear on what you need, want and can afford)

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Davide - Specialised Consumer Information and Assistance,
Diamonds by Lauren (http://www.diamondsbylauren.com)
davide@diamondsbylauren.com

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Sorry - cross posted. If your lady wants a 1.70 or larger, you either need to up your budget significantly, or you need to accept some trade-offs. Again, to understand what those trade-offs may be, you need to know if you can see J vs. K vs. I colour, and if any of these look too tinted; you need to look at different grades of cut and seeing if/where you can see a difference and if you like it enough to pay a premium. Picking F/I2 and hoping for the best is usually not a recipe for success.

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Davide - Specialised Consumer Information and Assistance,
Diamonds by Lauren (http://www.diamondsbylauren.com)
davide@diamondsbylauren.com

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Here is a link to a video of this particular stone http://segoma.com/v.aspx?type=view&id=YFTG5S4V80

I would stay away from any stone that is not close to eye clean.  There are definitely places to compromise that will keep the price in that neighborhood but will give you a nice stone.


Laurent George
Diamond Ideals
New York City

www.diamondideals.com
212-207-4845
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16 minutes ago, LaurentGeorge said:

Here is a link to a video of this particular stone http://segoma.com/v.aspx?type=view&id=YFTG5S4V80

Yikes. 😱

Then again, it is an I2, and it has been fairly described...


Davide - Specialised Consumer Information and Assistance,
Diamonds by Lauren (http://www.diamondsbylauren.com)
davide@diamondsbylauren.com

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When a jeweler is selling price on a stone that has not been seen, it is rare that the diamond has been described in terms understood by the customer.  We in the industry all know what an I2 is, but many customers see "diamond" and "$5100" without looking further.  Education is paramount.

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Laurent George
Diamond Ideals
New York City

www.diamondideals.com
212-207-4845
laurent@diamondideals.com

 

 

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You can do better.

I'm curious how you landed on this one. If size and price are your hot buttons, and they are for a lot of people so don't take that as a criticism, why are you shopping for F color?  I would try more like J/I1 to K/SI2 and see what you find.  You might even be able to bump the size a bit.  Adding a grand or so to your budget would really help.  You're giving up a lot in terms of beauty to hit your size/price target. It may be worth noting that you're fishing in a pool of 10,000+ stones and are looking for the dead cheapest one.  That's almost guaranteed to have some issues.

I wouldn't lose a moment of sleep over the fluorescence. 

Have you considered shapes other than round?

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