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What are your thoughts on the cut proportions, light return, and IdealScope?

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Here's what I will suggest you if you are looking for a bargain:

reset your search criteria and start over again. Put 2.0 - 2.05 in carat, Excellent for cut (some online sellers call ideal everything and it boils my blood), Excellent to Very good for polish, Excellent to Very good for symmetry, None to Faint for fluorescence, IF - VS2 for clarity. 

now sort these stones by prices, starting with cheapest first. Start eliminating the obvious buggers for example clarity based on cloud stones (for VS2 and below), large Crystal and feather inclusions on tables, extremely deep stones (>62.7), extremely small tables (<56), extremely deep pavilions (>41.2 degrees) and work your way like that and see what you come up with. Put up a few stones here for our analysis and we will tell you what's best among those.

 


Swanstar Diamonds.
http://www.swanstar.com.au
Melbourne, Australia.

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https://www.b2cjewels.com/dd/11903633/round-diamond-G-color-SI1-Clarity?sku=11903633&amp;utm_source=diamondreview.com&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=diamondreview.com

 

Here I found something interesting for you using this forum diamond finder. This is something I would buy. Don't worry about the VG symmetry and polish. That's around 16,000 plus some change for a G SI1 GIA Excellent cut stone with side inclusions and relatively cleaner table. Also a good diameter. 

Disclaimer: this is not a purchase advice. And I have no relation with the retailer or supplier of this diamond. 


Swanstar Diamonds.
http://www.swanstar.com.au
Melbourne, Australia.

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49 minutes ago, Furqan Shafi said:

Here's what I will suggest you if you are looking for a bargain:

reset your search criteria and start over again. Put 2.0 - 2.05 in carat, Excellent for cut (some online sellers call ideal everything and it boils my blood), Excellent to Very good for polish, Excellent to Very good for symmetry, None to Faint for fluorescence, IF - VS2 for clarity. 

now sort these stones by prices, starting with cheapest first. Start eliminating the obvious buggers for example clarity based on cloud stones (for VS2 and below), large Crystal and feather inclusions on tables, extremely deep stones (>62.7), extremely small tables (<56), extremely deep pavilions (>41.2 degrees) and work your way like that and see what you come up with. Put up a few stones here for our analysis and we will tell you what's best among those.

 

I will do some homework. Currently lowest price I've seen on a few big online retail sites start at $22-23K with those specs. Mainly because of the none-feint fluorescence and VS2. I'll try the diamond finder from this forum. Thank you for taking the time to do this!

37 minutes ago, Furqan Shafi said:

https://www.b2cjewels.com/dd/11903633/round-diamond-G-color-SI1-Clarity?sku=11903633&amp;utm_source=diamondreview.com&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=diamondreview.com

 

Here I found something interesting for you using this forum diamond finder. This is something I would buy. Don't worry about the VG symmetry and polish. That's around 16,000 plus some change for a G SI1 GIA Excellent cut stone with side inclusions and relatively cleaner table. Also a good diameter. 

Disclaimer: this is not a purchase advice. And I have no relation with the retailer or supplier of this diamond. 

What detriments does VG have compared to Excellent for polish and symmetry? Let me look further into this particular diamond.

Thanks again.

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Thanks for your patience. There wasn't many diamonds I could find with the specs you mentioned. Most of them were eliminated with poor depth% or deep pavilion angles. There were little to none of the polish or symmetry that were "very good" - large majority were "excellent". Most of the VS2 were priced at a point where I didn't find a good value due to the cut proportions and HCA being higher than 2. Few of the VS2 were out of budget. 

Here's one I found: GIA: 2ct, G, SI1, Triple Ex, No fluorescence. $20k

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1) What do you think about the table's cloud inclusion? 

2) What do you think of the 75% pavilion facet? Most of the inventory are 80% length. Will it be a noticeable change in contrast or fire?

3) How does the IdealScope look? It looks like some of the black triangle symmetry is off and some of the white triangles along the girdle is off. Your thoughts?

Thanks again for helping me with this.

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I am not commenting on the price factor anymore. 

That IS a gorgeous looking diamond. Provided the report doesn't have any comments like 'Clarity grade is based on clouds not shown'. 

Also make sure you get.your vendor to confirm that stone is not milky. That cloud is right in the centre under the table and likely to be reflected along all of the pavilion and many other facets. Depending how deep or shallow it's on the pavilion it.could possibly make the diamond slight bit milky. However it's not evident from the pictures. 


Swanstar Diamonds.
http://www.swanstar.com.au
Melbourne, Australia.

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I'm getting excited...this might be it. Thank you!

The GIA has a comment of: Additional clouds are not shown. Is that an issue?

I am asking the vendor to confirm that it is not milky ASAP. 

Question: since it is a 2 carat, will the inclusions look more noticeable due to the larger size? I am hoping this will be eye-clean.

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"Additional clouds not shown" are typically not a problem, especially as an SI1.

"Clarity grade based on clouds not shown" may be more of an issue.

Yes, inclusions will be more easily visible in a larger stone - however any assessment of "eye-cleanness" requires seeing the stone; it's perfectly possible for a 2 carat SI1 to be eye clean.


Davide - Specialised Consumer Information and Assistance,
Diamonds by Lauren (http://www.diamondsbylauren.com)
davide@diamondsbylauren.com

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Thank you Denver, David and Furqan.

After 8 days, I finally received the diamond tonight. It's very, very beautiful with artificial lighting, but I haven't seen it in daylight or direct sunlight yet. Unfortunately, the table inclusion is noticeable especially when the light comes through the pavilion... and sometimes from the table when the brilliance isn't blinding. It's a white floating 'flake' within the diamond. The diamond is not milky and the table inclusion can be reflected when looking through the pavilion. I have to sleep on this to see if I should keep this...

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Sleeping on it and looking at it in different lighting environments are definitely the right things to do! Also, if you can get a temporary setting (one of those clip things), it may help you figure out the extent to which the inclusion will be visible in real life: light very seldom comes through the pavilion "in real life"... unless you are Pepper Potts on Extremis!


Davide - Specialised Consumer Information and Assistance,
Diamonds by Lauren (http://www.diamondsbylauren.com)
davide@diamondsbylauren.com

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That's a great idea! Been trying to google search the term for it and cannot find it haha. I'll keep trying.

I just took a look at it in daylight on a gloomy day. The sun isn't out. But it looks beautiful and the white flake is hard to see when it's bright out.

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Some good lighting environments to look for:

Daylight in shade, like under a tree (most diamonds look really good in this light by the way)

Direct sunlight. Big blue sky at noon. 

Sunlight through window glass.

Overcast sky.

In an elevator.

In a warehouse (like a Costco or Walmart)

In a standard office with fluorescent lights (especially if she works in one)

In your home.

Candlelight.


Neil Beaty

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