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Hello everyone,

 

I'm glad to be apart of these forms. I am searching for a natural pink diamond. I am wondering what are the best places to buy a loose stone like this. So far I have looked at the following websites.

 

 

They all have GIA certificates, however I am still hesitant. How possible is it for a company to simply tag one of their diamonds with a GIA certificate? Or to falsely print an identification number on the diamond?

 

 

Some of the diamonds I have been looking at are as follows

 

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To your direct questions:

 

It's quite easy to inscribe a fake GIA report number and it's even easier to get a (carefully chosen) GIA report to go with a stone... however:

 

1. Getting the report to match the stone in every respect other than the colour/colour origin is practically impossible.

 

2. A vendor with a good reputation would never jeopardize it for a stone worth $1,500. I don't know Asteria, but Leibish and Naturally Colored are definitely above suspicion (as are we... Diamonds by Lauren).

 

3. If the vendor's reputation is not enough to reassure you, an appraisal from an expert chosen by you isn't expensive and provides greater peace of mind (not least because as well as identifying the stone it may provide you with significantly more information than a GIA report). Make sure that whoever you buy from has a return policy allowing you to get the diamond (and/or piece of jewellery) inspected and returned if anything is not to your satisfaction for a full refund.

 

Be careful with faint and very light pinks. Sometimes the pink tint is apparent, in other cases it's nothing more than a very - erm - faint tinge that is practically invisible in all lighting environments. Bear in mind that GIA first inspects the diamonds for colour through the side, where any tint will be more apparent, and then (if body colour is above a certain level) face-on. A faint or very light pink only needs to show barely detectable pink through the side - but it may look white once set especially in a round which is usually showing less colour face up. Photographs can be deceptive - make sure you see more than one in different lighting environments, and that they are unaltered/unedited other than for cropping.

 

Late edit: added sentence in italic in last paragraph.

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Davide - Specialised Consumer Information and Assistance,
Diamonds by Lauren (http://www.diamondsbylauren.com)
davide@diamondsbylauren.com

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I second everything Davide has said above and stress that the company he represents, Diamonds by Lauren, is also an excellent source of fancy colored diamonds.  If I were in the market for such a stone, given the amount of help and advice DbL, through Davide, give on this forum, I would go there first without hesitation.


Laurent George
Diamond Ideals
New York City

www.diamondideals.com
212-207-4845
laurent@diamondideals.com

 

 

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What has been your two's experience with Leibish? I have been emailing with them. At the bottom of the email they have buttons which link to their social media pages. Half of the buttons don't even to go to real pages. 3 out of the 6 direct to the site and say 'page doesn't exist' and another one has zero activity on it. Things like this make me worry about the legitimacy of the website.

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Umm... it's hardly fair to ask either of us as direct competitors of Leibish.

 

This said, they are a perfectly legitimate and long established firm, no matter what they do with their social media pages.


Davide - Specialised Consumer Information and Assistance,
Diamonds by Lauren (http://www.diamondsbylauren.com)
davide@diamondsbylauren.com

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They are a long established diamond firm, not a social and web media firm.  Try contacting them directly.  I know how easy it is to let webpages disintegrate. ;-)


Laurent George
Diamond Ideals
New York City

www.diamondideals.com
212-207-4845
laurent@diamondideals.com

 

 

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I would go with naturallycolored website, the one you have mentioned. I think it has great colored diamonds for sale. Plus it is certified diamond seller too.


New guy here to learn new things. :)

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The term “certified diamonds†refers to polished diamonds that have undergone quality analysis by a trusted gemological laboratory such as the AGSL (American Gem Society Laboratories) or GIA (Gemological Institute of America) and have been issued a lab report, commonly referred to as a “certificate".


New guy here to learn new things. :)

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...and neither GIA nor AGS use it for their reports. GIA goes so far as to publish fairly extensive and strongly worded disclaimers against the use of the word.

 

AGS does offer a certification programme for jewellers: it certifies that the jeweller complies with the AGS code of practice, but interestingly you didn't mention this either in your original post or in this follow up.


Davide - Specialised Consumer Information and Assistance,
Diamonds by Lauren (http://www.diamondsbylauren.com)
davide@diamondsbylauren.com

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What has been your two's experience with Leibish? I have been emailing with them. At the bottom of the email they have buttons which link to their social media pages. Half of the buttons don't even to go to real pages. 3 out of the 6 direct to the site and say 'page doesn't exist' and another one has zero activity on it. Things like this make me worry about the legitimacy of the website.

 

Have to agree with @LaurentGeorge: inactive social media pages do not necessarily make them shoddy. They've got a lot on their plates and probably don't have time to manage it in-house or probably don't feel the need to outsource it. Try contacting them directly and I'm sure they'll be more than pleased to answer all your questions.

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Diamonds by Lauren
30 W 47th St, New York, NY 10036
Phone: (212) 382-3770
Owner: David F.

 

Leibish & Co. Inc.
580 Fifth Ave., Suite 2502
New York, NY, 10036, USA
Tel: 1(888) 909 0721
Owner: Leibish Polnauer

 

P.S. I would go with DBL, but both will sell exactly what they say, and show on-line. Period. FWIW: Leibish is an Israeli company with many international offices. They can speak Hebrew or English. (if that matters). Not sure if David is bilingual. Good luck!
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Ron - thanks for the endorsement. :) I'm not sure X-lem is following this thread any more, unfortunately.

 

(BTW, David speaks perfect Hebrew. I am the reprobate: I speak 4 languages fluently, but my Hebrew doesn't go beyond a few blessings ;))


Davide - Specialised Consumer Information and Assistance,
Diamonds by Lauren (http://www.diamondsbylauren.com)
davide@diamondsbylauren.com

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Good to know. (Wouldn't matter to me though) considering I don't speak or understand Hebrew.

 

Davide I can barley speak one language well.  LOL - What 4?

 

French, German, Italian, and English? 

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Intrestingly enough my mother was born in Israel, and my father Ukraine. They both speak/spoke multiple laguagages. Father passed in 2008. I can barley speak one well. I remember in high school spanish class; I would ask the pretty spanish girl for the answers to the test questions. (Yes I cheated) quite often.

 

Language just ain't my thang...

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Italian, English, Spanish and French. My German is improving, but nowhere near fluency!

 

And do admit: you asked the pretty Spanish girl for the answers because she was a pretty girl; the Spanish came wayyyy second. ;)


Davide - Specialised Consumer Information and Assistance,
Diamonds by Lauren (http://www.diamondsbylauren.com)
davide@diamondsbylauren.com

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