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Help With Purchase Advice - Studs From Blue Nile

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Hi all - 

 

Been reading the forums for a while and received tons of great info!  But I would like to solicit your advice on purchasing a set of diamond studs.  From what's currently available on Blue Nile, any help with the diamond proportions (table, depth, ratio, clarity characteristics, etc.) and GIA reports would be great!

 

For example, this "ideal" cut round (http://www.bluenile.com/build-your-own-earrings/diamonds?stockno=LD06677354-LD06833075) has Depth=62.5% (which isn't that Very Good cut typically?) - so your help navigating these things would be very helpful! 

 

 

 

Budget ~$4500 for ~1.5CTW

 

Round shape

Ideal cut

H - J color

SI1 - S12 clarity

 

Feel free to suggest away!

 

 

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Hi - here are a few guidelines that may help you when trying to pair up a set of diamonds for stud earrings:
- mm diameter is quite important -for rounds, I find that anything more than 1/10th of a mm out is a bit too noticeable
- you want to keep the colour close - but they don't have to be spot on - for example, if you find a low end F colour, you can usually get away with matching it up with a top end G colour to perhaps save a few bucks, and you won't notice any difference.
- clarity is often sacrificed a bit with studs to improve other aspects (often colour/carat) - normally the same level of scrutiny isn't applied when people are looking at someones earrings as compared to looking at an engagement ring - so, depending on your tolerance, you can usually get away with a nice light coloured SI2. The same can apply here regarding having a range as well - there is no reason why you can't have, for example, a VS2 with a nice eye-clean SI1.
- make (cut) is very important - things like having the same table size / mm spread / depth / etc. is quite important - it doesn't have to be spot on (remember there's a head in between), but you don't want to have a 55% table with a 60% table. Pay attention to the cut grade - as you know, cut is what determines how light interacts with the diamond.
- many sites allow you to search for pairs - just use the search function (and advanced search function) to get a few results - if you need to filter further, you can then manually go through and find what you like
- it's always helpful having a rep assist (as long as you're confident that they have your interests in mind)
Hope this helps

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I'm not sure which diamond(s) you were looking at, since the link comes up with 125,000+ pairs, but none that seem to correspond to the two stock numbers in your original link (at least, I checked the first 10 or so without luck), so any comment about those two specific stones is not possible.

 

Other than that, I agree with ADN, and in fact I would tend to be significantly more lenient than he has been - as he says, there is often a head in between, and particularly with studs seeing both at once is practically impossible.


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Any reason why you are keen on going with blue nile OP?  The only reason why I am saying that is, it is hard to make a decision based on certificates alone.  An ASET/Idealscope and a real picture would give you a better idea of how each diamond performs.  Which unfortunately blue nile does not typically provide.  So you are essentially buying blind.  If you do insist on going with blue nile make sure you are comfortable with their return policies.

 

Did a quick search for you using their search function and narrowing down some parameters and here is a pair that should perform nicely (at least on paper.)  I'm not exactly sure if you can call in to have Blue Nile have their gemologists review the diamonds for eye cleanliness (also ask them what their definition of this is, b/c everyone has their own.) and overall performance, but it wouldn't hurt, you should mention that if the diamonds don't meet your expectations they would be returned.  Pair comes out to be $3961 for diamonds alone.  Being a J you can go white or yellow gold and i'm sure they'd look great either way.

 

1.51 ctw J SI1 Pair

 

http://www.bluenile.com/build-your-own-earrings/diamonds?stockno=LD06855729-LD06826561

Edited by JRRTolkienIdeal

"JRRTolkienIdeal" -Pricescope Exile :D Comparative Internet Shopper. Sugar. Water. Purple.

 

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I'm not exactly sure if you can call in to have Blue Nile have their gemologists review the diamonds

No, you can't. Actually, you can of course ask, but to my knowledge Blue Nile never provides any first-hand information on the stones they sell, because they never handle them. It's a pure drop-shipping model, so any information you receive on the stones beyond what's on the site comes from the Blue Nile supplier holding the diamond(s).

Davide - Specialised Consumer Information and Assistance,
Diamonds by Lauren (http://www.diamondsbylauren.com)
davide@diamondsbylauren.com

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All - 

Thank you much for your time and further consideration here.  Blue Nile makes things a bit easier (at least at this point) but I may just need to go into a few retail stores and decide in person.  I did, however, come across a pair that looked "reasonable" to me and I was hoping you could help me critique (from the GIA reports) so that I can further my understanding and knowledge.

 

http://www.bluenile.com/build-your-own-earrings/diamonds?stockno=LD06530797-LD06708331

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All - 

Thank you much for your time and further consideration here.  Blue Nile makes things a bit easier (at least at this point) but I may just need to go into a few retail stores and decide in person.  I did, however, come across a pair that looked "reasonable" to me and I was hoping you could help me critique (from the GIA reports) so that I can further my understanding and knowledge.

 

http://www.bluenile.com/build-your-own-earrings/diamonds?stockno=LD06530797-LD06708331

OP, the knowledge you are looking for is actually in the well written advice up above.  Since blue nile has no pictures, the gentlemen of the trade have given you general guidelines to go by.  The choice you just posted, isn't exactly perfect, but they are reasonably similar enough to not be a real issue.

 

I can go into why they aren't exactly matched in performance, on paper because of complementing crown and pavilion angles, and how that could possibly influence aesthetics but that would just be conjecture, (especially without imagery.) More is at play than on the certificates.

 

You can pick any two diamonds from that database, and I can tell you what some may possibly look like, especially compared to another.  Key word is MAY possibly look like, and just because it MAY not be optimal on paper but there are more variables, so looking good on paper DOES NOT mean that it will translate into a beautiful diamond.

 

Anyway, the first diamond you posted in the last one has a 35.5 degree crown angle, coupled with a complementing 40.8 pavilion angle. This should produce a balance of brilliance and dispersion, and should perform well.

 

The second diamond you posted has that same 35.5 degree crown angle, but instead it has a deeper pavilion depth, 43.5% causing a larger complementing pavilion angle, 41 degrees.  The angle is not optimal because the crown angle is too high to compensate.  You MIGHT see a bit of a dark spot in the middle of the diamond where light is not as efficiently reflected back to the viewer under the table.  Light return, fire, and scintillation will be reduced in comparison to the first diamond, but spread (horizontal diameter) is still fine for carat weight however.  This isn't to say that this second diamond is a bad choice, because its not, especially when being partnered with the first diamond.

 

The reason why it is an acceptable choice is that earrings are not under such close scrutiny as say a ring or a pendant. (And you do have a head between both ears, so nobody will be staring at both earrings at the same time.) Both have identical table sizes and similar diameters.  And have the same body color, so they should look pretty good as a matched pair.

 

You can pick any two diamonds from blue nile and ask if they look good, and all you will be given by the experts is an educated guess. Based on blue niles auto selections, the proportions of any pair you pick should look very similar in terms of proportions.  I don't think you will likely find diamonds that will "match" better in a store based on in stock inventory, just because of the volume of diamonds a virtual vendor has access to.  The key is to finding a vendor that can show you what you are buying before hand, or without that, dealing with a vendor who has very lenient return policies.

 

I think this is what you wanted to hear (or not.)  Anyway just the advice of another fellow consumer, if you were keen on going with an online vendor.  You can't go wrong with any of the vendors who post on this forum, as all of them have impeccable reputation, and most of them can source the imagery you need to insure your choice will be a solid and sound one.  You will also get the personal touch you want that unfortunately BN with its business model, may not be able to provide you.  I think alot of this will go a long way to make a much more stress free online buying experience for you, rather than just posting random pairs, and wondering if you got a "good" one.

Edited by JRRTolkienIdeal

"JRRTolkienIdeal" -Pricescope Exile :D Comparative Internet Shopper. Sugar. Water. Purple.

 

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You're right, Blue Nile is an easy, fast and safe place to buy this sort of thing.  Everything they sell is 'reasonable'.  At the same time, what you're asking about is exactly their weak point.  One of their core assumptions is that all GIA/xxx's are fungible.  There's no point in asking questions beyond that, and they aren't prepared to answer them if you do.  There are plenty of competitive dealers who take the opposite tack.  xxx is the beginning, not the end.  Which is best for you is up to you, and BN has tons of happy customers, but the task you're trying to do here, deciding which is 'most excellent' or which stones match the best based purely on data contained on the report, is doomed to fail.  The data simply isn't there.  

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