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  1. davidelevi

    Some diamonds expert please help me, thank you!

    Speaking as a consumer/collector of jewellery it does not seem an unreasonable price, but you are very unlikely to be able to resell it for more than that - or even to break even. If you don't like it for yourself, pay the penalty and escape; if you like it, then it's not a rip-off. Apologies if it wasn't my opinion you wanted.
  2. davidelevi

    Some diamonds expert please help me, thank you!

    Hi Karina, welcome to DiamondReview! I'm afraid that your questions do not have a unique, clear answer. An accurate appraisal would require two conditions: 1. Each diamond should be assessed and graded individually: the AIG report is frankly useless other than to determine weight (and probably not trustworthy in respect of the only grade it attributes: "VS clarity"). 2. A specification of what market is considered: the value (fair price) of the ring when sold (say) by Cartier in Via Monte Napoleone to a consumer is not the same as the "value" of the ring being resold by the consumer at "Compro Oro Milano" in Via Torino, even though the two locations are 10 minutes walk apart. Just for comparison, here are a few somewhat similar rings we have for sale: These have less diamond weight (around 1 cttw) and are set in 18kt rather than 14 kt, but they are I think a fair comparison for the price point; these ungraded "fancy colour" (meaning brown) diamonds are not very expensive and there is more cost in the workmanship than in the materials. The rings are all priced - retail - for less than USD 1,500 each, so while it's possible that someone would retail a similar ring (yours) for around twice the price, it's also very possible to find something comparable for much less. My advice is to enjoy the ring for what it is - a very pretty thing for which you probably paid a fair but not "bargain" price.
  3. davidelevi

    Please Help Me Decide

    Absolutely no need to apologize - I am well known for having the diplomatic skills of a bull in a china shop, so I'm the one that has to offer apologies; you came here asking for help, not criticism. However, as Neil has explained at length above, with ovals you definitely need more information than is available on a GIA report, and the easiest source where this can come from is a dealer. Ideally someone ready to show multiple diamonds together - through video and photos if in person is not a realistic option - and talking you through pros and cons of each. Yes, they'll be selling, but equally they will want a happy and satisfied customer - and an inquisitive customer asking polite questions should not be a challenge but a delight. Just out of curiosity: how did you land on D-F for colour? If you have done so after extensive viewing of diamonds and concluding that it was the only colour range that you (your to-be-fiancée) liked, then I have nothing to add. If you have done so because they are called "colourless" and you fear that G or H (or I) will look tinted, I would invite you to go to a decent jeweller (a branch of Tiffany will do) and look at the different colours before you decide. While you are there, you may also look at clarity and ask to demonstrate different cut proportions (though Tiffany isn't particularly good for either of the latter: they tend to sell stones cut in a very consistent way, and I don't think they stock anything below VS2).
  4. davidelevi

    Please Help Me Decide

    I don't think they are bad, but I think the point Neil is making is valid: here is a list of over 2,500 diamonds that all fit your top-line requirements (colour, clarity, weight, price): https://www.diamondreview.com/diamonds?sortOrder=price&sortDesc=1&fShape=Oval&fCaratLo=1.00&fCaratHi=1.50&fColorLo=D&fColorHi=F&fClarityLo=FL&fClarityHi=SI1&fCutLo=&fCutHi=poor&fDepthLo=50.0&fDepthHi=80.0&fTableLo=40.0&fTableHi=80.0&fSymLo=&fSymHi=poor&fPolLo=&fPolHi=poor&fCulLo=&fCulHi=vlarge&fFlrLo=&fFlrHi=vstrong&fPriceLo=0&fPriceHi=15000&fLabGIA=1&fLabAGS=1&adv=1 they go in price from just below $3k to your stated budget of $15k, and (with all due respect) I don't think you have gone through 2,500 diamonds to find those 3... not to mention the fact that those 3 are rather different from each other (other than the colour). FWIW, my favourite based on the videos is the 1.52 - but it's also $5k more than the other two, AND it is not necessarily the best cut oval I have ever seen (although personal taste plays a very important role here). Again with all due respect, but I think you are putting rather a few carts before the horse; start by finding a vendor or two you want to deal with, then ask them to help find the right stone. That's what they are there for, especially for a not-so-standard cut like an oval.
  5. davidelevi

    Need your advice---please help me choose a good one

    Maybe this answers your question, right at the beginning of the first post in the thread: ***************************** More designs for a round diamond? Like what? I think this is fishing for business, and covert advertising, not helping people.
  6. davidelevi

    Want To Purchase A Diamond Ring

    Same comments as above, except that it's now well over 4 years since the OP visited the forum...
  7. davidelevi

    Need your advice---please help me choose a good one

    Thank YOU! The 2.21 is perfectly OK; it's just not my favourite. 🙂 The latest one you have linked is also a nice diamond - even though it has a relatively large table and a flat crown it seems to be cut with superb symmetry and it faces out very large, thanks to those proportions and a thinner girdle than the others. If you (your fiancée) privilege size and scintillation to fire, it could be a good choice, and you save $1,000 in the process.
  8. davidelevi

    Need your advice---please help me choose a good one

    It would be nice if you removed the "refer" part of the links that accrues commission to another forum... All of the ones you picked above are decently cut. My personal favourite is the 2.08 because I like high crowns and smaller tables; the 2.21 is obviously the larger stone and it probably will be a little brighter but with a little less fire. The 2.12 is only worth considering (IMHO) if you (your to-be-fiancée) can easily see the difference between H and I; I cannot (in normal circumstances of looking at a well cut, set diamond from the top). Otherwise you are spending $2,500 for not much (and a set of proportions I like less than either of the two above). The two 2.01 are much of a muchness, and given your budget I don't see any reason for picking them, unless you are in love with the video of either one. FWIW, if I had to choose one of these two, I'd pick the one with catalogue number ending in 495 for the same reason I'd pick the 2.08 Hope this helps - remember that those above are my personal preferences; there is nothing wrong with a stone with a lower crown and larger table (e.g. the 2.12) if you prefer that look.
  9. They are unlikely to affect brilliance or appearance "dramatically" (to use your word) - it is graded SI1, after all, and that means that GIA graders think the inclusions are still visually relatively minor, and wisps are usually quite benign from a visual impact point of view. Whether they impact anything at all, as Furqan says, is not something that can be determined from the report or from (those) photos.
  10. davidelevi

    1.36ct intense blue

    From several hundreds of thousands to around a million. It depends on how nice it is, who owns it now, how much they paid for it and when, and why they are selling. As Neil said, it's a pretty rarefied market
  11. davidelevi

    IGL certificate

    Nobody so far has mentioned fraud - though that is possible. The more likely "problem" is whether you paid a fair price or not; many people retailing diamonds can in all honesty make the same claims re: "purchasing directly from manufacturers"; they still charge retail prices - possibly even luxury retail prices (e.g. Tiffany & Co is highly vertically integrated, as is De Beers Jewellery). You bought the diamond retail, and there is just no way that if they could have sold that stone alone for $5,000+ plus taxes (and 0.90 E/VVS2/VG do sell at that price) they would have given it to you with a fairly elaborate ring for $3500 including taxes. That's all. I repeat - this doesn't mean that you have been defrauded or even just ripped off; it simply means that there is no reliable information on that report to make that judgement call.
  12. davidelevi

    IGL certificate

    The back of the report seems to be one big disclaimer, rather than providing any clarity on which standards are used (if any...). I'll be a bit more direct than Neil, and I'll say that there are 4 things I would be inclined to trust on that report: 1. The date 2. The number of diamonds (not their carat weight, especially not the weight of the centre) 3. The weight of the ring is 6.74 grams 4. There is a stamp reading "585" on the ring (which is not the same as "I believe the ring is 14 kt gold") Don't get me wrong - it might be correctly identified, graded and even valued (in some unspecified market for some unspecified buyer and seller), but you'd have to provide other evidence than the report to convince me of anything other than those 4 things. One big reason why I say that is the following: here is a sample of ~50 diamonds, on sale by various (reputable and competitive) vendors, which are graded by GIA as 0.90-0.95 ct, E, VVS2, Very Good cut; theoretically the same as the centre diamond in your ring. https://www.diamondreview.com/diamonds?sortOrder=price&sortDesc=1&fShape=Rnd&fCaratLo=0.90&fCaratHi=0.95&fColorLo=E&fColorHi=E&fClarityLo=VVS2&fClarityHi=VVS2&fCutLo=vgood&fCutHi=vgood&fDepthLo=50.0&fDepthHi=80.0&fTableLo=40.0&fTableHi=80.0&fSymLo=&fSymHi=poor&fPolLo=&fPolHi=poor&fCulLo=&fCulHi=vlarge&fFlrLo=&fFlrHi=vstrong&fPriceLo=0&fPriceHi=1000000 each and every one of those is priced at least 15% more than your whole ring. That's before we consider that presumably the price you paid includes Israeli VAT at 16%, therefore the difference between one properly graded 0.90/E/VVS2 /VG diamond and a whole ring is at least 30%... with the ring being cheaper. The median price of those stones is $5,300, or 50% (75% if I'm right on the VAT) higher than the whole ring. Does it mean that you overpaid? Not necessarily; what it definitely does mean is that the report is not reliable and so we have no information to tell whether you did or you didn't. Retailers - especially in a place like Ramat Gan - know very well what they are selling and the price of an internationally traded commodity like diamonds or gold doesn't change much from place to place once normalised for taxes and servicing costs (which BTW are higher for a retailer in Ramat Gan than for an US-based internet retailer).
  13. davidelevi


    What are your priorities? The answer depends on them, not on what anyone else likes... FWIW, the one I personally like most in terms of proportions (on paper) is the 1.12, but there are people that would prefer others. None of them is badly cut. The 1.20 clearly looks larger than the rest, but it may be one of those rare VS2 where the inclusion is visible without a loupe in some circumstances. On the other hand, the 1.16 seems very clean when looked face-on, but the large cloud is visible through the side, so depending on how you are going to set it (and how sensitive you/your recipient are to those things), it may work very well... or not. The 1.09 is dominated by the 1.12: better cut (IMHO), same grades, same fluorescence, slightly larger visually and basically the same price - unless the 1.12 turns hazy or oily in sunlight, no reason to pick the 1.09. You seem to have picked strongly fluorescent I-colour diamonds except for a non-fluorescent F. Is this in the hope that the diamond will look whiter? If so, I have to reassure and disappoint you at the same time: a well cut I-colour - in isolation - will look quite colourless; on the other hand, a fluorescent stone will only look whiter if there is enough UV radiation to activate the fluorescence - basically only in sunlight.
  14. davidelevi

    Help choosing diamond!!!

    It doesn't particularly look bigger to me, but it 's perfectly possible that it actually faces up as large as (or larger than!) the 1.70: differences in depth and girdle thickness can easily result in a 1.50 looking as large as a 1.70. Also, table size plays a role on how large a diamond looks. Finally, camera angle is "not your friend" in the sense that it is not consistent (especially with stones held in one hand and the camera in the other), so it makes it more difficult to assess size precisely. Presumably the vendor has lab reports stating sizes? Have they shown these to you? Are the reports from reputable labs?
  15. davidelevi

    Help choosing diamond!!!

    Fairly inconclusive... However, since the same retailer seems to have both stones in hand, the easiest thing is to ask for a video where both diamonds are visible together, so you (and we) can get a better sense for relative size, brilliance, fire and patterning, as well as solving the issue of "transparency" (which is not the same thing as clarity) and any noticeable difference in colour (which I expect not to exist). FWIW, both appear to have a bow-tie, but of the pleasant (contrasted and variable) type.