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    Jared Vs. Zales

    HI All, Dashizz- the stone above is a 1.22 G/SI2 which is eye clean, and quite nice in person. It lists on our site for $5995
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    Peerless Princess Cut From Jared: Is It Worth It?

    Not at all Julian! Another aspect of this project to keep in mind is the ring itself. If you get a better price on a diamond, you can loose the savingts in a ring. In this case we were asked to replicate a platinum mount seen by our client. The price of the entire ring was about the same price you were quoted for the stone in Jared's. Actually less as we include free shipping.
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    Peerless Princess Cut From Jared: Is It Worth It?

    Thank you for the correction sir! I was basing my statment on a small number of AGS0 stones. The one cutter who seemed to specialize in them generally has the smaller table and built up crown the Jered's stone has. At this point we see only a very small number of AGS graded Princess cuts on the market.
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    Peerless Princess Cut From Jared: Is It Worth It?

    Hi All! Julian, Personally I am not a fan of the AGS grading for cut on Princess cuts. I know it's based on hard data- they can back up the grade with scientific prooof- however somethign gets lost in that equation. Similar to how you have been frustrated looking at diamond websites that expect you to choose based on measurements and grades with no photos. In general, a stone is going to have to have a rather small table, and high crown to make AGS000. These can be very beautiful stones. Yet there are other combinations that can be equally lovely- and cost less. Here's a stone we recently shipped ITEM #: R3126 Platinum Diamond Ring WEIGHT: 1.00ct SHAPE: Princess Cut COLOR: H CLARITY: VS1 MEASUREMENTS: 5.74 x 5.56 x 4.03 mm TOTAL DEPTH: 72.5% TABLE SIZE: 74% POLISH: VG SYMMETRY: VG FLUORESCENCE: NONE GIA REPORT #: 1102897867 This stone is a good example as it's cut is diametrically opposed an AGS000 Princess. The larger table and shallower crown allow the cutter to make a larger stone from the rough- which in turn allows savings to be passed onto the consumer. I hate to complicate this further for you, but also feel that steering someone towards a higher priced alternative that may actually be less attractive to the buyer is a problem. If someone had seen both a AGS000 Princess Cut as well as a well cut stone more in the vein of the one I posted, then chooses AGS, by all means it's easier, and probably worth the money. But some of the people who love diamonds will pick the non AGS stone. If you're one, yo can save some money. in terms of Jared's: As Neil alluded to, you're paying for the privilege of walking into a store. is ti worth it? Clearly, for many it is. But there's something you may give up as well. May of the best choices on the web are smaller companies where you will have a better chance of developing a personal relationship suited to a better buying experience overall. If you buy from a huge chain, you're just a number.
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    What's Wrong With This Stone...????

    No problem at all Frankly- just send all those nasty fluorescent diamonds our way. We are among those that have found MANY gorgeous stones with medium, or even strong blue.
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    What's Wrong With This Stone...????

    Iagree wtih a lot of what Neil wrote- indeed, I ususally agreee with Neil. I am not implying that the stone in question is a worthwile candidate... But it is not possible to say a stone's cutting is marginal simply due to the "good" polish or symmetry. This is especially true with fancy shapes. The aspects that caused GIA to downgrad a stone to good on polish are virtually never possible to see naked eye,and will require a well trained eye to spot with the loupe. There are many cases where it makes far more sense to leave a "natural" as opposed to polishing away a lot of the diamond to eliminate something invisible to the naked eye. In terms of symmetry: again, fancy shapes have totally different considerations as compared to round diaomnds. In many cases it makes more sense to design the facets on each side of the stone individually- the left bottom may not exactly match the right, however this aspect can be near impossible to see naked eye. In many cases the cutter needs to follow such a path to get a symmetrical stone in the face up position Today, in the field of round diamonds, VG is really the minimum you'll find in really well cut diamonds. But the same does not hold true in Fancy Shapes.
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    What Do You Think Of These 2......

    As usual from Neil, a well thought out comprehensive answer. Personally I don't believe the best sellers would do it for less than 25%- and some might want even more. Look at it this way- a seller has a lot of expenses. If that seller was to do what it takes to gt someone to plunk down $50K, he's going to have to make money- similar to the amount they'd make selling their own $50k item. If they were not doing this, they will not be in business long. Fifty thousand dollar buyers are by no means common. As Neil pointed out, some that might ask for less might not deliver - or even worse. Of course as it applies to the OP, this is all premature. There are certainly aspects that might be noted on the upcoming GIA report that would prevent the best sellers from taking the stone on consignment at any price.
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    Gia Report Versus Diamond

    A competent appraiser will measure and inspect the diamond, and should be able to verify it's the one on the GIA report. Inclusions must be visible with a 10 power loupe to appear on the GIA report- however the plots for inclusions may not always look as you expect them to based on the diamond's flaws.
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    What Do You Think Of These 2......

    Which leads to the next question:, what is a fair percentage of the sale price to be paid to the jeweler?
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    What Do You Think Of These 2......

    Yes Jan, good point. dsssxxx- as you are learning, people shopping for diamonds often go online and focus on the most minute details. If your stone has only good on polish or symmetry, it could render it practically unsalable online.
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    What Do You Think Of These 2......

    Consignment can be a valid alternative for those who can wait for the funds. Hypothetically you should recover more than selling to he dealer- although it can take years to sell such a diamond. What type of percentage have you been quoted as a commission? The comparison of a Patek, or Rolex is a good one, and highlights the difficulties particular to diamonds. It's unlikely you could photograph a timex and get people to believe its a Rolex. Because they are easily recognizable, well known brands ARE possible for private individuals to sell at high prices on eBay. But diamonds are a different story.
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    What Do You Think Of These 2......

    Thank you for responding dssxxx. Since many people who own diamonds, want to sell them to buy others, I believe this is an important conversation. If a really well established vendor such as Excel sells for $77k, a private party selling on eBay will be lucky to get $50k. It's not all that easy to sell high dollar items on eBay. There are some professional diamond sellers with a strong presence on eBay. They will command a higher price than a private seller. We sell quite a few items on eBay. You are correct, IMO many buyers do their homework there. For this reason, my experience is that the prices need to be better than a local jewelry store by a nice margin as a large percentage of internet shoppers expect to save money. Let's take the $77,000 diamond. IN a well established high line jewelry store it would probably sell for $100k+- For that additional money you'd get a store to walk into , and a lot of other perks. Excel might sell it for a few thousand more than another company- and they earn it by providing more thorough service. If a private individual were selling it, wouldn't you , as a buyer, feel it would be worth less? Consider that one could buy it with a money back guarantee, from an established seller. That alone is worth an easy $10k. But how would you , as a buyer, make yourself comfortable forking over even the $67K to a person who had no reputation? I really meant what I wrote. If you can find a seller willing to buy your diamond, you could save yourself a lot of time, and money. Understanding the difficulty involved in selling diamonds of this value on the web, might put this in a different perspective for you, as a buyer.
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    What Do You Think Of These 2......

    Cool dssxxx- we're located on 47th Street, and would be very interested in either straight sale, or a sale including a trade in. If you let us know when you'll be coming to town, we'll see what's available that day. We'll be glad to show you stones, and discuss specifics at that time. The market is kind of "skewed" the last few weeks before Christmas- many stones that will be here in New York in the beginning of January are not here this week. I'm still curious about your idea on the answer though- how much less a $77k Blue Nile ( or Abazias or Excel) diamond is worth on eBay......
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    What Do You Think Of These 2......

    I'm only acting based on the info originally provided. If you're willing not to have any trade, the deal is totally different. Given that, if you're willing to buy a new stone with no trade, my advice is still the same as I gave weeks back. Shop for your dealer. ANY assessment of a stone based on measurements and photos given online by people not looking at the diamond is worth exactly what you paid for it. I feel that it's important to stress that selling your diamond may not be nearly as easy as you expect. For example, the GIA report won't give you a value. PS- given your savvy nature, I'd really be interested in the answers to those questions I posed. Especially the one about how much would you pay a private individual on eBay selling a stone which is ostensibly equivalent to the $77k stone? We are among the dealers who are totally willing to bring product to the table once we understand what the deal is.
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    What Do You Think Of These 2......

    I agree with Neil. Dssxxxx By all means there's no need to answer any question you don't want to- but to clarify, the questions I'm posing have not been answered on our forum either. The relevance is very clear here. You mention dealers that are willing to do a trade. Have they guaranteed you a price for your stone? If not, and the sale is based on a trade in, wouldn't that make any price given on a stone you want to purchase irrelevant? I'd like to touch upon the subject of you selling your 3+ ct diamond on your own: I write this with all due respect- and my motivation is only to assist you in finding the realities of this situation before you make any move. My perspective is as a dealer who stocks inventory, accepts trade ins and offers actual photos of actual diamonds. You would have a very tough time getting even half of what Blue Nile Charges. Put another way, if the stone you're interested in is $77k on Blue Nile ( or elswhere) what would you ( a savvy shopper) pay Joe Shmoe selling that diamond on eBay. How would you ever be able to find out if the private seller is trustworthy enough to send even half the price? No matter how much one might learn on an internet forum, would that inspire the confidence to be able make sure Joe Shmoe is actually going to give you the diamond on the GIA report? Clearly you're a savvy shopper. Going on a ( many) public forums to attempt to both learn about diamonds, as well as pit dealers against each other to earn your business sounds like a great plan ostensibly. The trade is a problem that does not go away. From where I sit, unless you have a relative or friend ready to buy your existing diamond, or you're ready to keep it, your hands are tied. Again- all due respect- but that makes the act of procuring a bunch of 5 carat diamonds premature, from where I sit. If other dealers have been doing this- they very well may earn your business. If other dealers are going to pay you a fair price for your stone, as part of a sale on the diamond described for $77k, take the deal. Again- not to sound harsh- but these realities are part of this deal, from where I sit. There is a lot shoppers give up buying from the "list "sellers- trade in privileges are a biggie.
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    What Do You Think Of These 2......

    Then the question might be: how much less is the ring worth if you are selling it versus Blue Nile. Another questin that might be important: Will a dealer pay you more than you could sell it for on your own if you traded it in? How long do you expect the sale of your existing ring to take? All these reasons are why having a trade is a totally different situation than simply buying.
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    What Do You Think Of These 2......

    I think this discussion highlights an important aspect to the business. Few dealers offering a list of 10,000 stones actually own many diamonds. Therefore, they would never be able to take any sort of trade in. A consumer in the position of selling a three carat diamond is going to have to compete with Blue Nile- and all the others. Not an easy position, to say the least.
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    What Do You Think Of These 2......

    Good point Davide! Does Blue Nile accept trade ins?
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    Recommend A Pdf Or Something On Diamonds ?

    You're welcome Grindel! I get a kick out of some of the info I read online about diamonds. There's "rules" I never even knew. For example, there's a "rule" that table MUST be smaller than depth on an emerald cut. Problem is, I have seen so many diamonds that never bothered to read the rules- and then proceed to break them! We are located on 47th Street in Manhattan. Please let your son know we'd be very happy to meet with him any day. If he'd like to come in please ask him to call for an appointment 877-952-8736
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    Challenge - Find Me A Diamond...

    Hey dssxxx, I'll post an answer on the other forum as well. Then the war will start. You might notice that any question asked over there gets the same few sellers to be recommended. Nothing at all wrong with any of the "recommended sellers" over there, just take note that the the same people keep recommending certain sellers, who are also the advertisers on the forum. If you posted such a question on our forum ( coloreddiamond.info), likely a lot of folks would recommend us. I point this out to give you a little perspective. I also believe this is better handled between you and the sellers privately- you can always post stones you are considering to get opinions..... But no matter what ANYONE says, you and the dealer are going to have to feel comfortable working together. In a situation like yours it's impossible to overstate how important the dealer/ buyer relationship is.
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    Recommend A Pdf Or Something On Diamonds ?

    My opinion is slightly different here. I feel that your son is better off researching dealers. Whatever information can be garnered in books, and online, is totally insufficient to really give a person a working understanding of diamond buying. Researching sellers is far easier- and more productive IMO. After all, at some point, money will need to be sent to a company that will ultimately be who you'll need to trust.
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    Hca - Valid For Weeding Out?

    Grindel- what I am saying- and I believe Davide agrees- is that you may very well eliminate stones Garry Holliway does not like. But you may eliminate the best stone for YOU ( or your son) by using HCA. I know I prefer many stones he does not and vice versa. I'd sugest only considering vendors that possess the diamonds. They can give you personal assessment- as well as actual photos.
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    Give Me Your Honest Opinion On This Diamond....

    HI Sven- what is your opinon of EGL grading versus GIA?
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    Hca - Valid For Weeding Out?

    HCA= Garry Holliway's opinion clothed in what is supposed to look like a scientific tool. It's akin to walking into a restaurant and having someone else order. You may like what they ordered, or not. The problem I have with it is that the person who orders for you will tell you they can prove scientifically the dish they picked is "better"- when love of diamonds, as wel as food, is a totally personal experience.
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    Give Me Your Honest Opinion On This Diamond....

    Oddly enough, the stone I liked the best out of the three happens to be graded by EGL. It's not that the stone itself is bad because it does not have a GIA report- but this one shows clearly what type of differences are possible. Here is is on the desk- it looks better already than the others. It has a different facet pattern. Personally, I prefer it. IN terms of the shape and size, we can see how the 5.75, on the right looks quite a bit larger than the 5.01 Not that the 5.75 is "spready- it's also 71.4% depth. However in a rectangular stone it's distributed differently. ] In terms of the grade EGL gave the 5.75 H/SI1. The clarity would get SI2 from GIA, in all likelihood. I can't guarantee that, but I feel pretty sure. Same about the color. Compared to the I, it's a hair darker. it's lighter than the J though.