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[Readytoboard]

I am looking for a stone for the ring I am buying.

Princess
Gia cert
1.9ct+
J or better
SI2 or better
Vg or better cut

Thanks!

Stephan - readytoboard at hotmail dot com

[davidelevi]

Be aware that GIA does not grade cut in princess cut diamonds. Any cut grade you will be told is the dealer's own judgement - which may be perfectly OK or it may not be. Ask the dealer how they came to the conclusion on cut and what evidence do they offer to support it, then decide whether it is to be trusted.

Using the specs you have given, there are over 5000 diamonds that match advertised on DiamondReview's Diamond Finder: http://www.diamondre...pg=&qSort=Price. They go from just under $5k to over $250k, so you may want to narrow things a bit... e.g. with an approximate budget.

Good luck!

[diamond gurl]

Where are you located?

GIA does grade princess diamonds and here is link to GIA report of one

[url]https://myapps.gia.edu/ReportCheckPortal/getReportData.do?&reportno=2131161391&weight=1.71[/url]

[denverappraiser]

diamond gurl, on 24 February 2012 - 12:13 PM, said:

Where are you located?

GIA does grade princess diamonds and here is link to GIA report of one

https://myapps.gia.e...391&weight=1.71

I think what we have here is a failure to communicate. Davide is in Switzerland, and they do things differently over there, but GIA is still GIA, they have no Swiss office, and they don't assign a cut grade to princess cuts. The link you provided demonstrates this. There is no cut grade there.

Edited by denverappraiser, 24 February 2012 - 03:40 PM.

[davidelevi]

I think failure to read is more like it, Neil...

To the left of every post of mine it says "Location: Switzerland". And my post mentions "cut" three times. Bah!

[denverappraiser]

I didn't say it was YOU who was faililng to communicate, only that the failure occured. FWIW, Diamond Gurl didn't actually say anything that disagreed with you, they DO grade princess cuts as well as any other cut someone will pay them to look at

[najinasro]

hello there
let me try that , any idea over here from anyone , about creating lab diamond using HPHT or CVD technology .
well every dream must start somewhere .
assuming money issue is not an issue , any ideas?
serious talks at najinasro@hotmail.com.

thanks a good luck on ur princess if u did not buy it yet let me know .

[davidelevi]

@Najinasro - not sure what you are looking for:

1) A partner with the technology or capital to open a business in manufacturing synthetic diamonds?

2) A place where to buy a CVD or HPHT created diamond?

If the latter, this list although nearly 4 years old is still valid:

http://www.diamondre...hetic-diamonds/

Diamond Nexus Labs also sells synthetic diamonds, though their marketing leaves something to be desired...

[najinasro]

thanks for replying , all i am searching for is some one that knows the technology and able to find the machinary to produce

man made diamonds using HPHT or CVD process .

i will make the investment all i need is a some one that knows all the answers about manufacturing and producing man made

diamond .

[denverappraiser]

All of the manufacturs that I know of make their own equipment and they count the details of the tools to be closely held trade secrets. I would even expect that the 'tools to make the tools' are proprietary.

Why is this part of a discussion on Readytobaord's princess cut?

Edited by denverappraiser, 25 March 2012 - 06:00 AM.

[MJGabel]

GIA calls a princess diamond a "Square Modified"..

[denverappraiser]

MJGabel, on 18 April 2012 - 09:01 AM, said:

GIA calls a princess diamond a "Square Modified"..

True enough. 'Princess' is a trade name, rather like frisbee, kleenex, coke, or elsewhere in the diamond business, radiant cut and Tiffany settings. The generic term is square brilliant, square modified brilliant, rectangular modified brilliant, etc.

[MJGabel]

Which is strange because GIA set the standards of grading. So people like us in the industry refer to a princess as Square Mod, yet other grading agencies and jewelers call them princess..
You would think it would have changed to the actual correct name of Square Mod.

[denverappraiser]

MJGabel, on 19 April 2012 - 07:12 AM, said:

Which is strange because GIA set the standards of grading. So people like us in the industry refer to a princess as Square Mod, yet other grading agencies and jewelers call them princess..
You would think it would have changed to the actual correct name of Square Mod.

MJGabel, on 19 April 2012 - 07:12 AM, said:

Which is strange because GIA set the standards of grading. So people like us in the industry refer to a princess as Square Mod, yet other grading agencies and jewelers call them princess..
You would think it would have changed to the actual correct name of Square Mod.

'rectangular modifed brilliant' just doesn't roll off the tongue all that well'. It's kind of like calling a Coke a 'cola beverage'. It's correct, and I would expect an analyzing lab to use terms like that in a report about the various attributes, but it just doesn't work in the real world.

[MJGabel]

No it does not.. Not for Jewelry stores selling the product..