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[getreal]

Sorry folks. Just a man on a mission to get a great diamond for proposal.
Any feedback would be great!

About to purchase a 1.20 ct hearts and arrows ideal round diamond.
Color: G
Clarity: SI1
Depth: 60.7%
Table: 57.7%
Crown Angle:34.8
Star: 55.0
Pavilion Angle: 40.7
Crown: 14.7%
Lower Girdle: 77.0%
Measurements: 6.85x6.88x4.17
Culet: Pointed
Fluorescence: Negligible
Girdle: Thin to Medium Faceted

Everything looks good on paper. And based on these numbers, and how much would you pay?

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[diamondsbylauren]

HI- and congrats!
Does the diamond have a GIA report?
If you post the asking price, I'm sure you'll get opinions on that.

[getreal]

diamondsbylauren, on Monday, Jul 26 2010, 10:07 AM, said:

HI- and congrats!
Does the diamond have a GIA report?
If you post the asking price, I'm sure you'll get opinions on that.

I uploaded the AGS report. Doesn't come with a GIA report.
Asking price is $7700.

[GeorgeDI]

Hi GetReal,

The report you posted is not an actual AGSL report. For a true AGS graded Ideal G-SI1 with hearts and arrows, the price should be a little lower than you posted asking price.
I'll try to upload an image of an actual AGSL lab report. Have to take a crash course on uploading to the forum.

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Edited by GeorgeDI, 26 July 2010 - 10:29 AM.

[getreal]

GeorgeDI, on Monday, Jul 26 2010, 11:21 AM, said:

Hi GetReal,

The report you posted is not an actual AGSL report. For a true AGS graded Ideal G-SI1 with hearts and arrows, the price should be a little lower than you posted asking price.
I'll try to upload an image of an actual AGSL lab report. Have to take a crash course on uploading to the forum.

Oh, thanks for the clarification. I think thats all they had on their website. I don't have the actual report in my hand. What would you say is a fair price for this diamond? Not sure how much lower to ask. Do you think this is a good quality diamond?

Thanks for the feedback.

[GeorgeDI]

Quite honestly, without knowing the actual source of the grading info (is it or is it not really an AGS graded stone), it is impossible to answer your question regarding this particular diamond. I also misread your earlier post and just noticed that you are looking at a 1.2 ct stone rather than a 1ct stone, this of course increases the cost but still not as high as the asking price. Try doing a search on "Diamond Finder" above and see what comparable stones with real grading reports are selling for. This should answer most of your question. They may have a real grading report. You should ask them to email/fax you a copy before you make any further decisions. If they cannot do so, I would keep on searching...

[getreal]

GeorgeDI, on Monday, Jul 26 2010, 11:46 AM, said:

Quite honestly, without knowing the actual source of the grading info (is it or is it not really an AGS graded stone), it is impossible to answer your question regarding this particular diamond. I also misread your earlier post and just noticed that you are looking at a 1.2 ct stone rather than a 1ct stone, this of course increases the cost but still not as high as the asking price. Try doing a search on "Diamond Finder" above and see what comparable stones with real grading reports are selling for. This should answer most of your question. They may have a real grading report. You should ask them to email/fax you a copy before you make any further decisions. If they cannot do so, I would keep on searching...

I checked on [url="http://agslab.com/verify_diamond_granding_report.php"][url]http://agslab.com/verify_diamond_granding_report.php[/url][/url]
The numbers all match up.
I'm not sure if this helps, but the online vendor is whiteflash.com
Thanks George!

[GeorgeDI]

I'm glad you were able to verify the report.

[davidelevi]

Bear in mind that if you purchase an ACA stone from Whiteflash you are also purchasing (whether you like it or not) a number of "accessories", such as a trade-in and a cashback policy. These may be worthless to you, but they have a cost.

You are also purchasing WF's expertise in selecting a very consistent (and, to some, very attractive) "look" in stones - and while you can find stones that look very much like that, it takes time and skill to do so. And that has a price too.

Whether all of this justifies the premium of $3-500 that - as George says - you have to pay, it is a different question, and one only you can answer.

[Bradley]

That inclusion in the middle looks like a reflector. Check and make sure this is eye clean or your lady might not like the appearance. Cut is important but also clarity too. Not all SI`s are going to be eye clean. I would prefer the inclusions to be less centered in the heart of the diamond myself. An inclusion that reflects based on it`s position can look like much more than it is.

[GeorgeDI]

Bradley has a good point.

The images provided are all through optical instruments. As much as the center inclusion does not appear to actually reflect in the face-up image (arrows & aset), it might be a good idea to get a plain old unadulterated picture of the diamond sitting on a surface or a hand. This will give you a better idea of the actual impact of the inclusion. The best option, of course, would be to see the stone live and in person, but barring that as a possibility a face shot should help in your evaluation.

I have attached a picture of a rather ugly 2ct SI2 pear shape. With this kind of image you can judge if the inclusions are going to be bothersome or not. In this case, the inclusions are white and scattered. They do not hurt the stone.

Hope this helps.

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