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[Gasmyn]

Ok, so I am trying to find a loose princess cut diamond for my future ring. I have done lots of hours of research for the perfect or almost perfect diamond. I want the best, but don't want to pay an outstanding price. I know I'm a woman and I'm crazy. But I have found some pretty good deals. I'm not in a huge rush, but do want to find something in the near future, 1-2 months. I would like to stay under $7,000. Most I have looked at under my criteria are more, but I have found some for less and have printed out those companies. I have looked at CE diamonds to all natural diamonds. There are some pretty good deals on Ebay as well. But I have looked at so many companies and have seen their names on different forums. One thing I do not want is to look down at my diamond and see an inclusion or any yellow. Can you help in educating me on my criteria or does it look good? Also, if you locate one, that would be great too.


Cut: Princess Cut
Carats: Close to 1.5 carats

Color: D-F; (Maybe G, but really depends)

Clarity: IF-SI1

Cut: Ideal -Very Good

Polish: Excellent - Very Good

Symmetry: Excellent - Very Good

Fluorescence: None

Girdle: Thin, Medium or Slightly Thick; (No Extreme or Very)

Culet: None, Pointed, Very Small

Crown: 10-15% / 8.5-16%

AGS Finish Grades: 0,1,2

Depth: 64-75%

Table: 62-68% / 60-72%

Ratio: 1.00;1.05

Dimensions: ?

Price: ?

Certificate: ?



Thanks for all your help in advance.
Gasmyn

[jan]

Unfortunately you won't find a legitimately Graded (GIA or AGS) princess cut diamond in the D-F range SI+ clarity well cut for $7000.

You might see some listed on EBay but they won't be for real grades. You might find a clarity enhanced one for that price but keep in mind most clarity enhanced diamonds start out about I2 in clarity.

[Gasmyn]

Jan,
Do you know much on www.pricescope.com?

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Carat Color Clarity Depth Tbl Lab Gdl Cul Sym Pol Flr Measurements $/Crt Price Source
1.48 G SI1 69.1% 70% GIA thn-etk no gd ex no 6.34*6.25*4.32 $4766 $7054
1.48 G SI1 69.1% 70% GIA tn-xtk no gd ex no 6.34x6.25x4.32 $4814 $7125*SP
1.48 G SI1 69.1% 70% GIA tn-xtk no gd ex no 6.34x6.25x4.32 $4817 $7129*SP
1.48 G SI1 69.1% 70% GIA tn-xtk no gd ex 6.34-6.25x4.32 $4827 $7144*S
1.48 G SI1 69.1% 70% GIA tn-xtk no gd ex no 6.34x6.25x4.32 $4846 $7172SP
1.50 G VS2 74.3% 71% EGL s.tk pol vg vg no 6.23x6.14x4.56 $4122 $6183*SP
1.50 G VS2 74.3% 71% EGL s.tk pol vg vg no 6.23x6.14x4.56 $4173 $6260*SP
1.50 G VS2 74.3% 71% EGL s.tk pol vg vg 6.23-6.14x4.56 $4183 $6274*S
1.50 G VS1 71.8% 72% EGL tk pol vg vg no 6.23x6.13x4.4 $4416 $6624*SP
1.50 G VS1 71.8% 72% EGL tk pol vg vg no 6.23x6.13x4.40 $4472 $6707*SP
1.50 G VS1 71.8% 72% EGL tk pol vg vg 6.23-6.13x4.40 $4481 $6722*S
1.50 G SI1 73.8% 70% GIA vtn no gd gd no 6.16*6.07*4.48 $4931 $7397
1.50 G SI1 73.8% 70% GIA vtn-ex tk no gd gd no 6.16x6.07x4.48 $4966 $7449*SP
1.50 G SI1 73.8% 70% GIA vtn-ex tk no gd gd no 6.16x6.07x4.48 $4983 $7474*SP
1.50 G SI1 73.8% 70% GIA vtn-ex tk no gd gd 6.16-6.07x4.48 $4993 $7490*S
1.50 F SI1 71.6% 72% EGL - vg vg no 6.24x6.2x4.44 $3738 $5607*SP
1.50 F SI1 71.6% 72% EGL - vg vg no 6.24x6.20x4.44 $3785 $5677*SP
1.50 F SI1 71.6% 72% EGL - vg vg 6.24-6.20x4.44 $3793 $5690*S
1.50 F SI1 74.4% 69% EGL m no vg vg no 6.75-5.81-4.32 $4714 $7071*
1.50 E VS2 73.2% 72% EGL s.tk pol vg vg no 6.27x6.23x4.56 $4722 $7083*SP
1.50 E VS2 73.2% 72% EGL s.tk pol vg vg no 6.27x6.23x4.56 $4738 $7107*SP
1.50 E VS2 73.2% 72% EGL s.tk pol vg vg 6.27-6.23x4.56 $4748 $7122*S
1.50 E SI1 73.9% 71% EGL m no vg vg no 6.24x6.21x4.6 $4491 $6737*SP
1.50 E SI1 73.9% 71% EGL m no vg vg no 6.24x6.21x4.60 $4536 $6803*SP
1.50 E SI1 73.9% 71% EGL m no vg vg 6.24-6.21x4.60 $4545 $6818*S

I have found prices like this on that site. Criteria I entered.
Princess shape: 1.48-1.60
Color: D-G
Clarity: IF-SI1
Depth: 64-75%
Table: 62-72%.

What do you think?
Gasmyn

[Gasmyn]

Jan,

These are the two that interest me the most.
1.50 E VS2 73.2% 72% EGL s.tk pol vg vg no 6.27x6.23x4.56 $4722 $7083*SP
1.50 E VS2 73.2% 72% EGL s.tk pol vg vg no 6.27x6.23x4.56 $4738 $7107*SP
1.50 E VS2 73.2% 72% EGL s.tk pol vg vg 6.27-6.23x4.56 $4748 $7122*S

[jan]

Yes that is exactly what I meant. EGL versus GIA or AGS.

Stick with GIA or AGS if you want stones that are accurately graded.

[Gasmyn]

Jan,

Is EGL known for not being that good? I don't understand the difference.

[Gasmyn]

I looked back at all the GIA and they are all color G.

[jan]

If a dealer is looking for a looser grade they will send to EGL. Good for them but not for you.

[Gasmyn]

Jan,

Thanks for the info. Any opinions on this email I just received?

"The diamond and its certificate is at one of our jewelry retailer’s booth for display, however upon your purchase we can pull both of them to be shipped to you.

EGL Israeli certified diamonds are usually cut and polished in Israel by highly skilled labor."

[Bradley]

Gasmyn, on Tuesday, Jun 24 2008, 03:37 PM, said:

Jan,



EGL Israeli certified diamonds are usually cut and polished in Israel by highly skilled labor."

And then graded by Mr. Magoo.

[Gasmyn]

Thanks Bradley,

I needed that laugh!

[Gasmyn]

By the way, this was the diamond he is trying to sell me.

Princess Cut Diamond:
1.51Ct, F Color VS2 Clarity, EGL ISRAEL CERTIFICATE, $8720.00 (Cut and Symmetry Very Good/Very Good), No Fluorescence, Measurements: 73.5% 71% 6.22x6.11x4.49
Hi Crystal,

"Our final price would be 8770.00 as we really did our best with pricing already. This is a very high quality and rare diamond and we cannot make any further price discount.

The diamond and its certificate is at one of our jewelry retailer’s booth for display, however upon your purchase we can pull both of them to be shipped to you.

EGL Israeli certified diamonds are usually cut and polished in Israel by highly skilled labor.

This is the best deal in our vault for this size and quality diamond and it may sell out today therefore we cannot guarantee availability at all times.

Let me know if you are interested.

Thank you,"

By the way if you noticed, he went up $50..... LOL!!!

[Bradley]

Gasmyn, on Tuesday, Jun 24 2008, 03:55 PM, said:

By the way if you noticed, he went up $50..... LOL!!!

Ask for a stone like this with a GIA report and see how fast it goes up.