Hi, I'm considering purchasing a 1.5 ct pear with a medium girdle--- it has a natural on the girdle that is just barely visible to the naked eye if looking very very closely. I can feel it slightly when I run my fingernail over it. It extends about 1mm into the stone. Other than that, the cut, color, clarity and price are just what I'm looking for.
I'm a novice, and want to understand just what a "natural" means in terms of the stone's integrity--- is it weaker? Will it be more likely to get damaged? What else should I know about natural on the girdle?
Thanks much!
Greg
Pear EGL Europe
1.5 cts. 10.11x6.13x3.92mm
total depth: 63.9%
table 54%
crown 18%
pavilion depth 43%
grdle is medium, faceted
finish and polish are both: good to very good
Color: F
clarity SI2
graining nil
fluor: very slight blue
Set in 14k WG with 2, .20pt each (total .4cts) F, VS trapezoids
Price: $5500
Is Natural on Girdle OK?
Started by cayman, Sep 20 2006 01:14 PM
5 replies to this topic
#1
Posted 20 September 2006 - 01:14 PM
#2
Posted 20 September 2006 - 03:04 PM
Get it checked out by a pro.
43% depth is extremely small. If this isn't an error, you should move on to a different stone.
A natural is a part of the original crystal surface, as opposed to a facet that the cutter but there. They aren't generally much of a problem but what you are describing is pretty big. Again, get it checked out before you comit to buy.
Neil
43% depth is extremely small. If this isn't an error, you should move on to a different stone.
A natural is a part of the original crystal surface, as opposed to a facet that the cutter but there. They aren't generally much of a problem but what you are describing is pretty big. Again, get it checked out before you comit to buy.
Neil
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#3
Posted 20 September 2006 - 03:20 PM
Hi Neil,
The total depth is 63.9%
the pavilion is 43%
I do plan to get a a professional appaisal (2 if necessary) but wanted to hear what members on this board have to say.
Thanks, Greg
The total depth is 63.9%
the pavilion is 43%
I do plan to get a a professional appaisal (2 if necessary) but wanted to hear what members on this board have to say.
Thanks, Greg
#4
Posted 20 September 2006 - 07:59 PM
Greg,
That makes more sense. 63.9% is reasonable. I was sort of suspecting a typo but I guess I just can't read.
That makes more sense. 63.9% is reasonable. I was sort of suspecting a typo but I guess I just can't read.
Neil Beaty
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#5
Posted 21 September 2006 - 12:59 AM
Naturals are usually not a problem and exist because the cutter needed to retain carat weight, which could be the case here as the diamond weighs 1.5 carat. The price difference between a 1.5 to a 1.49 could range from 5-15% depending on the Cut Quality of the stone.
In view of the fact that this is a SI-2 clarity, the imperfections/inclusions may exist at or around this natural and a key reason the cutter did not polish this area for fear of compromising the structural integrity of the diamond.
Agree with Neil, get this baby checked out by a competent Independent Appraiser.
In view of the fact that this is a SI-2 clarity, the imperfections/inclusions may exist at or around this natural and a key reason the cutter did not polish this area for fear of compromising the structural integrity of the diamond.
Agree with Neil, get this baby checked out by a competent Independent Appraiser.
Barry
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#6
Posted 21 September 2006 - 04:41 PM
Big thanks to everyone for your help.
Had 2 GG GIAs from different parts of town look at the stone. I told them nothing about the stone, not even that it is certed. Both came up with "G" possibly H color (of course, it's mounted, so...) both said I1, and both said the natural is smaller than 1mm, and not a vulnerable stone, not an issue.
Another example of EGL Europe ratings being a grade or 2 off on clarity and color....
and I know--- an I1 is worth alot less than SI2. So, now I just decide if the $5500 pricetag is ok....
You all were great! Thanks again!
Had 2 GG GIAs from different parts of town look at the stone. I told them nothing about the stone, not even that it is certed. Both came up with "G" possibly H color (of course, it's mounted, so...) both said I1, and both said the natural is smaller than 1mm, and not a vulnerable stone, not an issue.
Another example of EGL Europe ratings being a grade or 2 off on clarity and color....
and I know--- an I1 is worth alot less than SI2. So, now I just decide if the $5500 pricetag is ok....
You all were great! Thanks again!









