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Posted 12 December 2005 - 11:45 AM

I plan on buying a possible engagement ring in a pawn shop but I dont know what to look for. How can I tell if its a good diamond and can I fix it up to look like its brand new so my girlfriend wont know i bought it in a pawn shop. my email address is [email protected] thanks greg.

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Posted 12 December 2005 - 11:55 AM

1. You will get a better deal (better diamond at a better price) if you buy from a jeweler, not a pawn shop. Look around this website for reputable dealers.

2. Although this website is not for relationship advice, I'll go out on a limb and suggest that being anything less than completely straightforward and honest with your girlfriend may not be the best way to start a lifelong trust-based relationship.
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Posted 12 December 2005 - 12:45 PM

I think Ben gave some sound advice.
I will add that there are some very fine pawn shops with actual jewelry stores attached- some of these are comperable to a regular jewelry store.
The places I'm refferring to keep the lawnmowers and bowling balls in an entirely different room.

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Posted 12 December 2005 - 03:15 PM

There’s nothing wrong with buying either jewelry or lawnmowers from pawnshops.

With jewelry, they do tend to specialize in low-end goods. By this I mean things like I-2 K stones that are cut like a turnip but with an attractive price point when compared to the Rap sheet or some mythical 'appraisal'. If this is what you’re looking for, they’re a pretty good place to go although you should watch out for the tendency to overdescribe the merchandise. SI2 vs. I2, H vs. K may look like gobbledygook but it's really pretty important. When they get the opportunity to buy a high quality stone off of the street, they long ago learned that they will do better to sell it through a ‘real’ jewelry store and fill their own cases with items that show a big flash for little cash. More than half my class at GIA was pawnbrokers and a lot of these folks are pretty savvy people. It’s a matter of managing their inventory with the kinds of merchandise that their customers demand. A lot of pawnshops are better at selling jewelry than they are at buying it and they have to supplement their purchases from the same suppliers that everyone else uses. They are, in effect, jewelry stores with a specialty sort of décor. Some are actually pretty high volume stores. Apparenty this is a popular theme with certain customers.

One of the funny problems in the pawn business is that a location that is good for buying things is probably not also a good location for selling. This is part of the reason that the big chains are so successful. They can buy at one place where the economy isn’t doing well and nice things are being sold and then sell somewhere completely different.

The way to tell if it's a good diamond and/or a good mounting it to buy it with the right to return for a 100% refund if you decide that you are unhappy within some reasonable amount of time - Then get it immediately appraised by an independent appraiser. They can also advise you of any required repairs or other concerns that you might want to address before you present it as a gift.
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Posted 01 July 2015 - 02:28 AM

If you buy something from a Pawn Shop be sure to ask what they would pay for it in a year if you bring it in. Between The price you pay & the price they would give you is a spread. I always look at the spread first. The guy I deal with who just has a buy/sell silver/AU shop charges about 60 cents per oz above the daily market rate. That is an acceptable spread to me, cause if I bring it back, he would take 60 cents per oz for silver above the new market rate. So I could actually make some money next year.


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Posted 02 July 2015 - 04:13 AM

Peter. That's an unusual way to shop. The spread, as you describe it, is zero if you just keep your money in the first place.  If that's your first objective, why are you in there in the first place? The reason to buy things there is because you want the merchandise, not as a business opportunity or an investment. Outside of the possibility of mispriced items, which DOES happen in pawn shops by the way, you are extremely unlikely to be able to make a profit by buying things from a pawn shop and selling it back to them again later. If that's the plan, keep your money in your pocket or buy stocks and bonds with it.


Edited by denverappraiser, 02 July 2015 - 04:29 AM.

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Posted 02 July 2015 - 05:34 AM

There is also a big difference between buying and selling gold vs buying and selling diamond jewelry.


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Posted 02 July 2015 - 07:30 AM

First time poster, on a 10 year-old thread. Shurely shome mishtake? (Or shome shpambot...)


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Posted 04 October 2016 - 08:06 AM

If you get that ring from pawn shop, you can give it a new look by getting it washed from the jeweler, as they have special chemical wash and no one an make out whether it is new or old. [spam link removed and post reported]

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Posted 07 October 2016 - 02:08 AM

Peter. That's an unusual way to shop. The spread, as you describe it, is zero if you just keep your money in the first place.  If that's your first objective, why are you in there in the first place? The reason to buy things there is because you want the merchandise, not as a business opportunity or an investment. Outside of the possibility of mispriced items, which DOES happen in pawn shops by the way, you are extremely unlikely to be able to make a profit by buying things from a pawn shop and selling it back to them again later. If that's the plan, keep your money in your pocket or buy stocks and bonds with it.


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Posted 11 October 2016 - 12:57 PM

Whats wrong with lawnmowers and bowling balls. ;)



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Posted 11 October 2016 - 01:25 PM

Whats wrong with lawnmowers and bowling balls. ;)

Neither is usually worn as jewellery


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 01:35 AM

Engagement is one life-time event so I suggest not to compromise with the quality of the ring. Make sure the ring looks elegant. Don't bother about the cost. Just buy the best for your engagement and make it a memorable event.


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 04:43 AM

Engagement is one life-time event

...unless you are Donald Trump. Or Elizabeth Taylor.

so I suggest not to compromise with the quality of the ring. Make sure the ring looks elegant. Don't bother about the cost. Just buy the best for your engagement and make it a memorable event.

...and above all state the obvious.

fesco - not to be rude, but do you realise that the OP's question dates back to 2005? The thread has been "resurrected" a couple of times because spammers and spambots keep posting on it - surely you are not one of them?
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Posted 14 October 2016 - 06:14 AM

Davide leave lil fesco alone. I'm a bot too

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Posted 14 October 2016 - 06:34 AM

 

Engagement is one life-time event
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...unless you are Donald Trump. Or Elizabeth Taylor.


 

 

 

 

 


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 06:44 AM

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