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#1 ehr

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 09:14 AM

Hi all, what it is ?

 

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#2 davidelevi

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 09:27 AM

IF the photos are relatively true to the real object being portrayed, it's a largely transparent, nearly-colourless stone cut in old brilliant style, possibly chipped or irregularly cut, set with a bezel in a yellow metal collar stud. Probably dating from 1880 - 1930 (upper date based on the stone's cut and the lower on the fact that post-1930 collar studs are rare).

 

Whether that's a diamond in yellow gold or a piece of glass in brass or something else "in between" is a completely different question, and one that requires direct inspection of the item. Any competent jeweller should be able to help you with very little effort (and usually no money required).


Edited by davidelevi, 17 March 2017 - 09:29 AM.

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 09:54 AM

IF the photos are relatively true to the real object being portrayed, it's a largely transparent, nearly-colourless stone cut in old brilliant style, possibly chipped or irregularly cut, set with a bezel in a yellow metal collar stud. Probably dating from 1880 - 1930 (upper date based on the stone's cut and the lower on the fact that post-1930 collar studs are rare).

 

Whether that's a diamond in yellow gold or a piece of glass in brass or something else "in between" is a completely different question, and one that requires direct inspection of the item. Any competent jeweller should be able to help you with very little effort (and usually no money required).

I maked this Fotos myself, tomorrow I can make Fotos in Daylight.
the Metal is Steel  or something like that/

oh and I don't understand what it is 

 

and yet, I have one more thing, can post it here?


Edited by ehr, 17 March 2017 - 09:58 AM.


#4 davidelevi

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 09:56 AM

Looking forward to seeing them!


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#5 Furqan Shafi

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 10:06 AM

That looks like a button of some metal set with some stone. That's all I can make of it.

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#6 ehr

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 10:07 AM

Looking forward to seeing them!

more Fotos + once more Thing

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#7 denverappraiser

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 10:39 AM

It looks like a tux stud to me.  


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#8 davidelevi

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 11:38 AM

oh and I don't understand what it is

It's a shirt stud - like a removable button. I think the German for it is "Doppelknopf".
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Posted 18 March 2017 - 07:41 AM

neue Fotos 
and I was wrong, metal is silver

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#10 davidelevi

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Posted 18 March 2017 - 10:32 PM

Much better photos... but not much more help in telling you what you have.

The objects are a shirt stud and a hat pin. The date is somewhere around late 1800s and early 1900s for both, the pin possibly a little earlier than the stud (but possibly not).

The real issue is the materials. My bet is that both stones are diamonds (there was an "epidemic" of yellow diamonds from Cape mines around the turn of the century), and the metal is gold in both cases(white gold for the stud, low carat rose gold for the pin). But it's a bet.

 

The "good" thing is that differently from the Russian brooch, the only value these things have is as scrap - which is easy to price once the metal is tested and the items weighed. The bad thing is that the objects are small and the stones don't seem very nice, so the scrap value will be quite low (~€32/gram of PURE gold; you are unlikely to get much at all for the stones).


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