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#1 Rickyg2008

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Posted 11 March 2017 - 07:13 PM

Hello,

I plan to propose in 3 weeks.

Visited my local high end jeweler and was pushed not to purchase online.

I'm looking for a .70 to .80 princess cut for a solitaire ring.

My budget is 2k-3k with room to grow if it's worth the quality. I'm all for Blue Nile or James Allen unless someone has a better suggestion.

I'm like a fish out of water at the moment lol

Thanks again

#2 Rickyg2008

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Posted 11 March 2017 - 07:26 PM

https://www.bluenile.com/build-your-own-ring/diamonds?stockno=LD07673565

Price - 2541

LD07673565
Price per carat $3,343
Carat weight 0.76
Shape Princess
Cut Very Good
Color H
Clarity VS1
Length/width ratio 1.02
Depth % 73.0%
Table % 75.0%
Polish Excellent
Symmetry Very Good
Girdle Thin to Medium
Culet None
Fluorescence None
Measurements 5.01 x 4.91 x 3.58 mm


https://www.bluenile.com/build-your-own-ring/diamonds?stockno=LD07033839

Price 2725$


LD07033839
Price per carat $3,586
Carat weight 0.76
Shape Princess
Cut Very Good
Color G
Clarity VS1
Length/width ratio 1.03
Depth % 72.6%
Table % 71.0%
Polish Very Good
Symmetry Good
Girdle Slightly Thick
Culet None
Fluorescence None
Measurements 5.05 x 4.91 x 3.57 mm


https://www.bluenile.com/build-your-own-ring/diamonds?stockno=LD07210500

Price 2790

Stock number LD07210500
Price per carat $3,671
Carat weight 0.76
Shape Princess
Cut Good
Color E
Clarity VVS2
Length/width ratio 1.02
Depth % 71.8%
Table % 77.0%
Polish Good
Symmetry Good
Girdle Medium to Thick
Culet None
Fluorescence None
Measurements 5.11 x 5.01 x 3.59 mm


Maybe pick one of these 3. Thanks again

#3 davidelevi

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Posted 12 March 2017 - 02:44 AM

Four key points (which I'm trying to summarise, since they have been covered literally hundreds of times before):

 

1. GIA does not grade princess cut diamonds for cut. AGS does, but it has a tiny % of the market. The Blue Nile "cut grade" is meaningless - or even harmful. Table and depth provide very limited clues to cut quality - a bit like knowing tyre size and number of doors to estimate a car's 0-60 performance.

 

2. Cut is and remains very important, and it's the single biggest contributor to how "good" a stone looks - especially if you confine yourself to similar sizes (I'd rather have a well cut 0.80 than a poorly cut 1.00; give me a 3 carat and I might change my mind... and re-cut it!). Unfortunately, for anything other than rounds information on cut and proportions is sorely lacking from standard lab reports.

 

3. "Quality" is in the eye of the beholder. What do you (does she) value? You are unlikely to see the difference between an E and an H once they are set, unless they are next to each other. Same goes for VS2 vs. VVS2 (and you'll need a loupe for that one).

 

4. Choosing a vendor that can provide you with the information you require to make your decision is more important than choosing a specific stone. The vast majority of the stones will be available to all retailers, since they belong to wholesalers who don't care much about which channel the stone takes. The key is understanding what matters to you (see point 3) and who can help you find out about it.

 

Out of curiosity: there are literally hundreds of stones that fit the range from which you extracted the three candidates above: http://www.diamondre...fLabAGS=1&adv=1

 

How did you pick those 3?


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#4 Rickyg2008

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Posted 12 March 2017 - 04:09 AM

Thanks for the response.

I simply went off carat, cut grade , and clarity.

I'm not sure what particular girdle looks best on princess cuts.

Is it possible for maybe someone to chime in with some links of stones that you'd recommend.

#5 davidelevi

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Posted 12 March 2017 - 05:20 AM

Do NOT rely on cut grades that are issued by the vendor. Unless you know and trust the vendor and their method for awarding those cut grades. Given that Blue Nile by deliberate choice NEVER sees any stone they sell, it's not a vendor I would trust in this respect.

 

Girdle has very little to do with "looking best". It's more of a "looking larger" matter, and it's independent of shape. Avoid extremes (VTN / VTK) and high variability, but by and large it's not a criterion that I would advise to focus on.


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#6 Rickyg2008

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Posted 12 March 2017 - 08:27 AM

Thanks again,

So it sounds like given the link you provided one of those should suffice.

Maybe I'm just overthinking the whole deal

#7 davidelevi

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Posted 12 March 2017 - 02:01 PM

"Suffice" is entirely your decision - and the point I was trying to make with the link is that you choose 3 stones very arbitrarily.

 

Any of them would probably be OK for 90%+ of people. I would not buy any of the three without knowing a fair deal more about it, whether I were buying it for resale or for myself.


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